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    My cheat meal I'm eating right now:

    2 double Whoppers
    1 brownie
    5 York Peppermint Patties
    1 12oz bag of Hershey's Miniatures
    6 Strawberry Eclair bars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frizzy View Post
    I believe myth suggest LBM x .75-1g carbs Meal 1 PWO,PWO2. As for refeed I think 1 meal last meal of the day to keep the fat at away and your metabolism primed.
    Am I right in guessing this is done say every 7 days or so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Am I right in guessing this is done say every 7 days or so?
    Yeah once a week is good for most people.

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    About not getting back to ketosis:
    I read that dave suggest that women do not eat more than 100g of carbs in the cheat meal. I've tried that. I didn't have cravings or headaches the next day. That being said I've had better results having a bigger amount of carbs. Cravings the next day, yes, but a bigger fatloss..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolbe View Post
    About not getting back to ketosis:
    I read that dave suggest that women do not eat more than 100g of carbs in the cheat meal. I've tried that. I didn't have cravings or headaches the next day. That being said I've had better results having a bigger amount of carbs. Cravings the next day, yes, but a bigger fatloss..

    Me personally I seem to get better results with bigger cheats. The pic in my avatar I was a bit under 10% but I did get leaner from there...veins in lower abs and striated triceps. My cheats were sometimes absolutely terrible. Once was a grocery bag full of candy bars (ugh!). But I sure did get lean.

    I had an embarrassing moment at work one time where I did a cheat meal on a Saturday and I ate so much that I was in the bathroom trying to make myself throw up because I was in so much pain from eating too much. I had to tell my boss I felt sick and threw up and went home and went to sleep. Another time I was over someone's place for a BBQ and I ate so much I was in the bathroom heaving (although not throwing up). Yeah...that's too far. But still I got in good shape! LOL

    I've since learned to control that more without stuffing myself painfully, but I still eat a lot (like my cheat meal I just had and listed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    Leucine. 5g per meal for at least the first few meals the day after the cheat.
    and how leucine will do that? im curious ...

    thk u

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    hi to all im on my 2nd week of keto and i havent droped a pound but but fat level has gone down a lot,i mean i could grab fat around the waist line big time now i have almost nothing does this make sence??i do have to say ive started test this week too,by the way has anyone calculated how many calories a 200lb person needs on keto??thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    My cheat meal I'm eating right now:

    2 double Whoppers
    1 brownie
    5 York Peppermint Patties
    1 12oz bag of Hershey's Miniatures
    6 Strawberry Eclair bars
    Nice :] I would stay away from the whoppers though to much fat for me !

    My last one was...
    1.3 Onion Bagels with FF cream cheese(strawberry)
    2.3 Big mixing bowls if assorted kids cereal whole grain.
    3.1 failed attempt at home made pizza but I scarfed it down.
    4.Home made nacho chilli fries.
    5.Low fat ice Cream with brownies & french toast

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    Quote Originally Posted by LANCE SPENCER View Post
    hi to all im on my 2nd week of keto and i havent droped a pound but but fat level has gone down a lot,i mean i could grab fat around the waist line big time now i have almost nothing does this make sence??i do have to say ive started test this week too,by the way has anyone calculated how many calories a 200lb person needs on keto??thanks
    What is your Lbm?
    Last edited by Frizzy; 04-02-2009 at 09:21 AM.

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    im just under 220lb at 5,11

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    What % body fat?

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    no idea but i can see my abbs a little,hope that helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by -BLP- View Post
    and how leucine will do that? im curious ...

    thk u
    Insulin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frizzy View Post
    Nice :] I would stay away from the whoppers though to much fat for me !

    My last one was...
    1.3 Onion Bagels with FF cream cheese(strawberry)
    2.3 Big mixing bowls if assorted kids cereal whole grain.
    3.1 failed attempt at home made pizza but I scarfed it down.
    4.Home made nacho chilli fries.
    5.Low fat ice Cream with brownies & french toast
    I prefer my cheats to have good amounts of fat. I crave fats and I feel they're more productive for me this way.

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    Hello Frosty and Myth.

    I have ran the keto diet twice. 1st 12 weeks I lost 25 lbs and 6 inches off my waist. 2nd 12 week run I lost 6 lbs and 0 inches off my waist. Ran the exact same protocol.

    Only time I have to train and do cardio is between 4:45 to 6:15 am. I have a family that need me at night. I wake up at 3:30am to take pre-workout drink and "grow a tail".

    With only an hour and a half per day to train and do cardio I don't have the option to increase cardio (unless I cut back on training).

    Should I lower calories, cut out cheat meals, or reduce training to drop fat.

    FYI. I run a tech support dept so I sit on my ass most of the day.
    Stats: 229lbs 5'8 at about 20% bf.

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