N2kts

[daft205]

I saw that this morning too. I was hoping to snag one more but no such luck. I must say that I am pretty bummed!

Yeah, now the real question is what will the replacement be? I would love to see Ntbm put out a stim free pre(plenty of strong stims already available).

[Young Gotti]

Yeah, now the real question is what will the replacement be? I would love to see Ntbm put out a stim free pre(plenty of strong stims already available).

i agree, i think two preworkouts would be awesome....stim free based around endurance and a stimulant based formula based on energy and focus, this way ppl could take them individually or combine them if need be

[data4]

i agree, i think two preworkouts would be awesome....stim free based around endurance and a stimulant based formula based on energy and focus, this way ppl could take them individually or combine them if need be

There are quite a few promising ingredients available now that would make for a very nice stim free version. I would like to see the stim free in a full size scoop formula though. You really need that in order to get enough of each ingredient.

[daft205]

There are quite a few promising ingredients available now that would make for a very nice stim free version. I would like to see the stim free in a full size scoop formula though. You really need that in order to get enough of each ingredient.

Exactly. Then if someone wants stims, they can just add a caffeine tab, eph, or their stim of choice. I think it makes more sense to seperate it into two categories anyways; an ergogenic preworkout, and an "energy"/stim supps if wanted/needed.