BC and competing

[Allifit]

MY HUBBY is fixed, but many friends use the iud that compete. thanks figure 22 i sent her the link to this thread. im sure shell go off after she reads your post!

Whats the IUD? Doesn't that have horomonal effects as well?

[RealLilSwole]

An IUD works by slowly releasing a small amount of the hormone progesterone into your uterus. So it still has the same think at the ring or BC.

[RealLilSwole]

Glad I am not the only one with the messed MS. FLOW. LOL!

[Allifit]

An IUD works by slowly releasing a small amount of the hormone progesterone into your uterus. So it still has the same think at the ring or BC.

I saw there's two kinds- one that releases horomones and one that does not?

[GirlyMuscle]

True. There are IUD's (intrauterine devise) that have hormones and ones that do not.

[RealLilSwole]

Duh! Sorry. My head not working. I am a nurse on a gynocology/oncology floor. I should have had a better answer. True, there are two.

1. Paragard - a copper IUD. Good for about 10 years. It works by causing sterile inflammatory response which basically kills sperm before it reaches the fallopian tubes. No homones.

2. Nirena - good for 5 years, secretes pregestorone.

Hope thats better.

[AndroGrrL]

Duh! Sorry. My head not working. I am a nurse on a gynocology/oncology floor. I should have had a better answer. True, there are two.

1. Paragard - a copper IUD. Good for about 10 years. It works by causing sterile inflammatory response which basically kills sperm before it reaches the fallopian tubes. No homones.

2. Nirena - good for 5 years, secretes pregestorone.

Hope thats better.

Question...why won't my dr let me get the paragard inserted? I know it always says that you have to have had children previously to get it...but umm...I want it!

[sassy69]

Question...why won't my dr let me get the paragard inserted? I know it always says that you have to have had children previously to get it...but umm...I want it!

The general recommendation is that if you're going to have kids, you should have had them before you start w/ the IUD. Its not like a hormonal requirement or something. I'm 43, I've never had kids, but at this point I suppose I'm not expecting to have them either. So I just went for the IUD. I was using a very low dose estro /progest BC, then went off while competing and then just stopped takign it for a while (wasn't dating anyone). When I started up again, I kept forgetting to take the stupid things, so I opted for the Nuvaring. But after a few months of my bf at the time, playing "reverse ring toss" when we had sex, I decided to just keep it simple and get the IUD. The assumption is that you're going to go 5 yrs w/o wanting to stop & have kids again.

I was recommended to get the Mirena vs the Paragard because of the very low dose, time release progesterone which helps reduce bleeding that can happen w/ the Paragard. I've had absolutely no bleeding or issues w/ it. Cost-wise it runs about $600. So if you consider that cost, spread over 5 yrs, it seems to come out pretty cheap compared to bc.

I didn't go look for measures, but I feel like saying that the amount of progesterone in the Mirena is much smaller than in the Nuvaring, and its time release for over an expected 5 yr period vs a 1 month life expectancy of the Nuvaring. If anyone actually knows, please post up.

[Sistersteel]

Any woman looking to monitor hormonal changes induced by AAS should consider the Paragard as the most unintrusive form of BC.

[partsRheavy]

The exact topic of birth control and its effect on muscle response to resistance exercise is being discussed as the subject of a
poster topic at the American Physiological Society meetings this week.

I don't have a PubMed yet since this looks like a poster presentation at the meeting, but some of SE Riechman's other articles are listed in PubMed and may be of interest.

Steven Riechman's CV suggests that he's interested in dietary cholesterol, statins, and muscle building as well as the birth control issue.

Enjoy the CV linx!

Since I'm 45 years old I think it's cool this young guy is doing research with aging, too!!!!

P.S. What happens to a researcher's mind when his co-author's name is RF Gearhart?!? I couldn't make this stuff up even if I tried!

[partsRheavy]

Extract from an article about the study of birth control and muscle gains:

Lee and Riechman say that birth control notably inhibits muscle gains:

Ten weeks of resistance exercise training resulted in 40% less gain in lean mass among users of oral contraceptive pills than in nonusers, according to Chang Woock Lee of Texas A&M University, and colleagues.

They reported their findings at a meeting of the American Physiological Society, a member of the Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology.

Researchers said that the results are particularly important because many high-performance athletes take birth control pills to control their menstrual cycles.

The reduced muscle development in OC users was associated with significantly lower levels of androgenic hormones and insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1), as well as elevated levels of the stress hormone cortisol. Action Points
Explain to patients that this study suggested that active women who use oral contraceptives may have less muscle development compared with nonusers.


Mention that the type of birth control pill was important: gain in lean mass was inversely related to the androgenicity of the progestin contained in an OC.
Moreover, gain in lean muscle mass differed according to the androgenicity of the progestin in an oral contraceptive (OC).
"I think the implications are that so many women are taking BCP, and if they are active or competing, and want to achieve the highest level of performance, they need to consider whether birth control is a negative influence on that," said senior investigator Steven Riechman, Ph.D., also of Texas A&M.

Several studies have demonstrated lower levels of the anabolic hormones dihydroepiandrosterone and its sulfate ester (DHEA/DHEAS) in women taking OCs.

Bt the implications for active women and trained female athletes had not been studied extensively, said Dr. Riechman, noting that female athletes often use OCs to control their menstrual cycle.

[Allifit]

Any woman looking to monitor hormonal changes induced by AAS should consider the Paragard as the most unintrusive form of BC.

I'm unfamiliar with the paraguard...

[sassy69]

I'm unfamiliar with the paraguard...

There are two types of IUDs - Paragard is basically the copper IUD, no hormones at all. The other is Mirena which uses a small amount of slow-release progesterone to help reduce bleeding which can occur w/ the copper IUD.

[Tatyana]

Question...why won't my dr let me get the paragard inserted? I know it always says that you have to have had children previously to get it...but umm...I want it!

No you don't.

Seriously, unless you have had children, it is more like a medieval torture device than a birth control method.

I had one and I have never experienced such consistent pain in my life, and you will haemorrhage when you get your period.

One of my friends at work had a similar experience, and her IUD embedded in her uterus, she had to have it surgically removed.

[SallyAnne]

No you don't.

Seriously, unless you have had children, it is more like a medieval torture device than a birth control method.

I had one and I have never experienced such consistent pain in my life, and you will haemorrhage when you get your period.

One of my friends at work had a similar experience, and her IUD embedded in her uterus, she had to have it surgically removed.

Doodles.