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    Quote Originally Posted by iRock2 View Post
    hypothetical question: If a man were to use tren Ace as a stand alone AAS at xxxmg per week, what would happen to the man's estradiol ?
    E2 will drop but some Estradiol labs will show a false positive for E2 when using Tren.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltasaurus View Post
    10 weeks in on dieting running 400mgs test e, dieting another 10 weeks and or recomping adding in additional 350mgs of test per weeks in the form of sust.

    Could i keep calories the same but raise fiber and protein % of calories in attempts to recomp/cut on same calories and the higher dose?
    No idea, sorry


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    Quote Originally Posted by econ mba View Post
    Hi Heavy,

    I have an update and a question. As an update, I took your advice and increased test dosage.

    Current cycle:
    week 1: 200 mg prop
    2: 350
    3: 350
    4: 350
    5: 400
    6: 400
    7: 600
    8: 700 prop, 175 mg winny inj, 300 EQ
    9: 700, 250, 300
    10: current, 700, 350, 300
    Yesterday I started Adex, took 0.5 mg and today took 0.5. Plan on 0.5 EOD.

    Pros: Love the increased test. Never gone above 400 mg per week before in my ~10 cycles over a 24 year period, and definitely feel this higher dose is giving me a better bang-for-the-buck. The winny, oddly enough, I think is giving strength and size gains. I was expecting a cut effect from winny. I'm 5'7" and bodyweight has increased from 218 at start to 234. Increased macros at week 8 (I've never adjusted macros on-cycle before) and I think that was a good move. I used your info about myostatin at day 56 to plan dose increase and insert additional compound and gains have been steady the entire time. Very pleased.

    Cons: Mild to moderate water retention, and as of about 6-7 days ago, high blood pressure. Would like to find cause of HBP but several variables exist--it correlates with introduction of winny two weeks prior, and EQ also about two weeks ago.

    Question for you: Today I ordered a "Hormone Panel for Females" from private md labs so I can see where my estradiol is at. I will go tomorrow to have blood drawn for the test. I have been using test for 10 weeks but only started an AI (adex) yesterday--do you think my 2 day use of adex will skew the results?

    One more question for you: I'm 42, am done having kids, and I would like to make some significant long term gains. I plan on a Swiper-like approach (albeit lower dosages and frequent labs) where I don't come off. I would like to drop the winny and EQ and just run test only at 500-700 mgs permanently and blast intermittently at 1 gram+. What one or two, or three, things are most important to keep an eye on when going this route?

    Thanks for your help, Heavy.

    Sean
    Adex will lower E2 pretty quick so it will effect the labs.

    BP, Hematocrit and Lipids generally speaking but I would also monitor liver and kidney markers.


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    Heavy,
    Is Tren E known for raising cholesterol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardatit View Post
    Heavy,
    Is Tren E known for raising cholesterol?
    Many steroids lower HDL cholesterol so I would focus on diet and cardio to mitigate negative effects on cholesterol.

    Omega 3 fish oil, plant sterols, and fiber are a great place to start.


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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    Many steroids lower HDL cholesterol so I would focus on diet and cardio to mitigate negative effects on cholesterol.

    Omega 3 fish oil, plant sterols, and fiber are a great place to start.

    Heavy how about omega 9 fats for cholesterol? EVOO, Macadamial nut oil, Avocados?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soujerz View Post
    Heavy how about omega 9 fats for cholesterol? EVOO, Macadamial nut oil, Avocados?
    Our diets are typically rich in 6 and 9's. Its the 3's we need. Supplement with what your diet lacks.


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    Have you experienced joint pain caused by hgh?

    How it differ from pain from a minor injury, a strain etc?

    Both my knees have started clicking and hurt from the inside out, but overall my water retention
    levels are not bad, no swollen ankles etc.

    Running 10iu hgh per day for over a year now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by link View Post
    Have you experienced joint pain caused by hgh?

    How it differ from pain from a minor injury, a strain etc?

    Both my knees have started clicking and hurt from the inside out, but overall my water retention
    levels are not bad, no swollen ankles etc.

    Running 10iu hgh per day for over a year now.
    Yes, in my wrists and hands I get a soreness that feels kind of like carpel tunnel. Its likely due to water retention.


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    Heavy, I don't think I have ever seen your take on the low test/high tren fad that seems to be going around now. Many guys obviously feel it cuts down on side effects. I'm curious if you've ever tried it as a way to deal with sides as I know you have said you are prone to the harsher sides from tren. Do you think there is something to it or is it just another fad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel618 View Post
    Heavy, I don't think I have ever seen your take on the low test/high tren fad that seems to be going around now. Many guys obviously feel it cuts down on side effects. I'm curious if you've ever tried it as a way to deal with sides as I know you have said you are prone to the harsher sides from tren. Do you think there is something to it or is it just another fad?
    Yes, I have used Tren with low doses of Test and no Test at all. I still get side effects either way. Its common to administer Tren this way at the end of a prep so its nothing new brother.


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    Do u loose fullness in a cutting high tren low test cycle vs a cutting cycle with high test?

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    Some people suggest a high anabolic low test first cycle like a 175-350 test and 700 npp per week cycle. What do you think about that for a first cycle? I'm considering that because they suggest it has lower sides with good enough gains.

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    ^^^ I'll probably add 25-50 mg proviron ed with that cycle

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    Ok.. First time joining forum and first question.. If I do this wrong, please be patient, I'll learn. So first question is how do I cycle Anavar, Winstrol, and Clen? I've never tried anabolic before however I've done a little research and those three in particular lean towards my desired goals. I'm a female who trains hard every day. Lifts heavy and is consistent with cardio 5 days a week. Do I take them all together? Then how long should I cycle on then go off? Any advise would be much appreciated : )


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