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    Sounds good man, i never did that show but i think ill try it out 2013. You got a good shot at the overall if you can get in ur usual conditioning

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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyBeast05 View Post
    Yea that's what I'm saying... I squat the best way I feel my legs work. When I squat on the smith or hack I go until my hams touch my calves but that's because it feels right. I think more people need to actually film themselves squat too so they can truly see how low they go. A side view is completely different from what you see in the mirror.
    So true on videoing. There are times I think I am all the way down when i am not and it looks like i am in the mirror and feels like i am.

    I also think different ranges have benefit. I can stimulete quads much more when i decrease to parallel and up the wt. So i do both sometimes ATG other times not

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    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGetLean View Post
    Wearing a belt at all times in my opinion is unnecessary, during heavy sets on leg or back days, sure. But everyday, every workout? don't you think your making yourself vulnerable to injury? I feel like your core strength will suffer dramatically from wearing that belt so consistently don't you?
    I absolutely do not think I'm making myself vulnerable to injury. I still train my core - but I do so under controlled conditions. Hey... my waist went down near TWO inches in a year... that's all I need. I actually got a small umbilical hernia from NOT wearing a belt. I now wear my belt across my belly button - it isn't super tight, but tight enough that it protects me.

    Yes, everyday - every workout. No exceptions. I think a bodybuilder would be foolish to do otherwise... but that's just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Sexy View Post
    I absolutely do not think I'm making myself vulnerable to injury. I still train my core - but I do so under controlled conditions. Hey... my waist went down near TWO inches in a year... that's all I need. I actually got a small umbilical hernia from NOT wearing a belt. I now wear my belt across my belly button - it isn't super tight, but tight enough that it protects me.

    Yes, everyday - every workout. No exceptions. I think a bodybuilder would be foolish to do otherwise... but that's just my opinion.
    Do u sleep with the belt on also?

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    i have 2 comments

    if your It band is sore you have no sense being in the gym that is not muscle its fascia once you damage that GAME over ( and training injured builds muscles unevenly as well as puts strain on other muscles and only harms your whole body)

    that was not parallel by any means,, and it was clear the weight was too heavy because if you were working a certain range you would perform every rep in the same manner which you didnt you were just concentrating on getting a number of reps rather then taxin your muscle

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    There's a place for quarter squats, and you did them well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itrain View Post
    i have 2 comments

    if your It band is sore you have no sense being in the gym that is not muscle its fascia once you damage that GAME over ( and training injured builds muscles unevenly as well as puts strain on other muscles and only harms your whole body)

    that was not parallel by any means,, and it was clear the weight was too heavy because if you were working a certain range you would perform every rep in the same manner which you didnt you were just concentrating on getting a number of reps rather then taxin your muscle
    Are you out of your mind? Your telling me every time you have a tweak or minor strain you just sit on your ass at home instead of training AROUND your injury? Call me crazy for being in the gym but I call it being lazy by just sitting at home. If I would stay out the gym every time i have a tweak or strain I'd only train half the year.
    And the weight is too heavy? bro my form did not change from 315 to 225 to 135... you telling me 135 is too heavy? Look ATG SQUATS THAT DAY STRAINED MY IT BAND...THATS WHY I USED A SHORTENED RANGE OF MOTION...WHEN MY IT BAND IS HEALTHY AGAIN I WILL BE ABLE TO SQUAT LOWER... until then I invite you to post a video of you doing this, same weight same form same reps with no belt and no wraps, I'd love to see it
    I think I've done a pretty good job of bringing my wheels up in the past year using my shitty form
    Last edited by BabyBeast05; 02-15-2012 at 01:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGetLean View Post
    Do u sleep with the belt on also?
    No, that would be uncomfortable.

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    you squat like every 22 year old 167 pound newbie in the gym, quarter reps all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieCheswick View Post
    you squat like every 22 year old 167 pound newbie in the gym, quarter reps all the way.
    I'm tired of all this talking... Wheres the video of you guys showing me how to do it the "right way"

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    If it works for you, do it-
    me personally, My quads don't respond to colossal weight and short Rom, they blew up when I used absolute full rom, bottom out deep with a rest pause.

    Look at branch warren, he goes shallow as fuck on leg press, so does ronnie.

    What ever works for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by mygunshowsoldout View Post
    If it works for you, do it-
    me personally, My quads don't respond to colossal weight and short Rom, they blew up when I used absolute full rom, bottom out deep with a rest pause.

    Look at branch warren, he goes shallow as fuck on leg press, so does ronnie.

    What ever works for you
    Bro I've been saying IDK how many times I used a shorter ROM due to pain/tightness of my IT band but no matter what people want to bash something they can't or wont do. Thats why I'm over all this talking I just want to see video of all the bashers doing it better

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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyBeast05 View Post
    The lower I went yesterday the more pain I felt in my IT band so I just squatted as low as I could yesterday without pain. I usually squat to parallel when my legs feel good. But I don't squat extremely deep free weight cuz I don't feel any benefit from it, just low back pain
    If you are feeling all low back then you need to work on your form to get a little lower. Keeping more upright will help this. What's happening, and I sure you know this, is as you get lower you bend over putting the tension on your back rather than your legs.

    I use the Dave Drapier Top Squat to counter act this... Helps keep me up right as I squat, and doesn't change the fundamental movement of the squat EXCEPT to take it off your back and to put it all on your legs. It actually made the squat harder for me bc it took my back out of it AND I can get hella lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Sexy View Post
    If you are feeling all low back then you need to work on your form to get a little lower. Keeping more upright will help this. What's happening, and I sure you know this, is as you get lower you bend over putting the tension on your back rather than your legs.
    Yea, there's nothing about going deep in a squat that necessarily stresses the lower back any more, as long as your form is correct throughout.

    Actually, if you squat deep you can limit stress on your lower back by taking the weight down and using greater range of motion while still stimulating the legs just as much if not more than you were doing previously. If you remember from high school physics class, the actual mechanical work that you do is calculated by the force times the distance. So if you double your ROM and half the weight you are using, you are actually performing the same amount of 'work' for each rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Sexy View Post
    If you are feeling all low back then you need to work on your form to get a little lower. Keeping more upright will help this. What's happening, and I sure you know this, is as you get lower you bend over putting the tension on your back rather than your legs.

    I use the Dave Drapier Top Squat to counter act this... Helps keep me up right as I squat, and doesn't change the fundamental movement of the squat EXCEPT to take it off your back and to put it all on your legs. It actually made the squat harder for me bc it took my back out of it AND I can get hella lower.
    My back felt pretty good even without my belt, a little shakey on the decent. The main pain was my IT bands. I got worked on yesterday by my ART guy and the bottoms of my vastus lateralis are really knotted up. He dug in there pretty good as well as my TFL which was CRAZY tight and painful! He wants me stretching 5 times and day and hitting the foam roller at least everyday to help loosen them up to improve my ROM. I'm sure if I wrap my knees that'll help a ton, but idk if I want to use them or not

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