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    So is it a high or low glycemic carb? As in should one use it if they are dieting?

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    considering the cost, just not worth the cash, plus it tasted like candle wax...

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    You can get 6 lbs of Optimum WMS with an enzyme call Carbogen for 18 bucks from DPS Nutrition, thats pretty cheap. I personally notice a big difference in how lean I stay and how much water I hold compared to dextrose, and my energy levels are very consistent. I can take 120 g of this stuff after workouts and eat a big solid food meal an hour and a half later since it doesn't bloat. But I like this stuff for meal replacement shakes just as much as PWO. For offseason use its great, but pre contest only PWO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyMac710 View Post
    ...but i got the same or better results with plain corn starch as with most of the WMS. I prefer Dextrose, but for each their own
    Just to confirm, are you saying regular corn starch--the stuff in the baking section of the market that is used to thicken soups and sauces--is pure dextrose?

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    I like waxy maize because it's the only carb powder that I can drink.....Dextrose is so gross (the sweetness makes me so nauseous, and malto makes me bloated.......Vitargo makes me crash and then I'm starving).

    I purposely use it to avoid a huge insulin spike, I look and feel better on slower carbs. I use it post workout, and my stomach stays flat and I feel good for a 90min until my next solid meal.

    Plus I enjoy the taste and texture. I use unflavored, and just add it to my whey.

    The marketing hype aside, it's a good powder. All this sugar/insulin post workout stuff is way way over rated. For every "freak" it has produced, it has also caused an entire generation of bodybuilders to just get fat.
    Last edited by Rep300; 02-18-2012 at 06:05 AM.

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    it certainly goes down easily and doesn't bloat you

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    I been getting great results from Dave's Carbolyze
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    Certainly believe Waxy Maize can have its proper place in ones diet or training regime

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    Why not just eat food?
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    Quote Originally Posted by data4 View Post
    Why not just eat food?
    Shock!

    Gasp!!

    Well how dare you!!!




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    Type of carb source post workout is irrelevent.

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    its good stuff, a sweet potato would be way better though.
    or if you add it wo protein shakes you would have more benefits from adding oats instead even though it is harder to drink.
    i use it on occasions if im struggling to get enough carbs in but i prefer finely ground oats mainly because waxy maize has alot of gluten

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    edit: @Spacey

    No, sorry if i wasn't clear - i prefer Dextrose as my post-workout carb source (I use NOW Foods Dextrose) .. the Corn Starch I was using for a while after trying a few different Waxy Maize products and the results were pretty much the same. Waxy Maize was hyped to be a very high Glycemic carb, but what studies and my experience has shown me is that most Waxy Maize on the market is likely regular corn starch - not standardized for the high glycemic carbs and is instead a mix of high and low GI Carbs, giving it far less benefit for insulin response & post workout nutrition
    Last edited by ScottyMac710; 02-18-2012 at 03:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by data4 View Post
    Why not just eat food?
    bingo, all though around here you're likely to get banned speaking the truth and not sucking the dick of the supplement thieves, the answer is simple enough, inject drugs, train and eat copious amounts of food, without the drugs its pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by data4 View Post
    Why not just eat food?
    This is what people need to realize if you are natural or do not use "Slin"

    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieCheswick View Post
    its all about drugs and genetics, no matter how many carbs and protein you force post workout you wont get any different results than a heavy juice user who waits 3 hours post workout to eat, plain and simple.
    People like this make the sport grow ^

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