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    Default Orals while on cruise

    Long story short i competed in Nov and get in the best shape of my life,Cruised for a few months then hopped on tren/eq/prop during this i was dating a girl who made me LOSE MY MIND,I know i cant blame ppl for my mistakes but i was eating like shit and even skipping the gym sometime for her...Any way im done with her and now cruising

    Right now im cruising on 250 test,Im currently going to be cutting on the cruise and gonna try to lose hardcore weight the next 4-6 weeks,Im doing t3/EC stack right now then plan to run a 14 DNP cycle to reallly kill the last bit of fat off,Also gonna be running 4iu gh on this cruise when it comes


    My question is can i run an oral while on this cruise maybe for 4 weeks?Or would this defeat the purpose of a cruise?I was thinking of running Var to keep strength up and to harden up

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    I would but longer than 4 weeks...

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    of course you can do anything you want but isnt the general purpose of a cruise to both clear receptors and clean the body for health purposes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Provo82 View Post
    of course you can do anything you want but isnt the general purpose of a cruise to both clear receptors and clean the body for health purposes?
    Exactly. IMO, what your doing isnt a cruise its a low dose cycle.

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    Hmm you guys are right,Well im sure im giving my body some what of a break if im just on 250mg test n an oral,but yea i know orals are harsh


    I was really planning on running the tren/eq for a few more month but i feel since i fell off a little i cut back n drop some fat first then BLAST with some tren again to make actually muscle gains,Im just nervous since i wanna atleast drop 20-30 pounds that ill lose muscle,so thats why i figured i throw var in there to mantain some size n not get depressed shrinking(been having serious gf issues so my mind if fucked),Or maybe cruise on some mast to instead?

    what do you guys think?here is a recent pic but i gained a little fat since this pic n im alot softer now

    http://i.imgur.com/boFHS.jpg

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    the only thing I could think of to perhaps validate an oral would be a pre workout dose of dbal or something, but you said you wanted to cut, so meh,... does not work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nymuscle View Post
    Long story short i competed in Nov and get in the best shape of my life,Cruised for a few months then hopped on tren/eq/prop during this i was dating a girl who made me LOSE MY MIND,I know i cant blame ppl for my mistakes but i was eating like shit and even skipping the gym sometime for her...Any way im done with her and now cruising

    Right now im cruising on 250 test,Im currently going to be cutting on the cruise and gonna try to lose hardcore weight the next 4-6 weeks,Im doing t3/EC stack right now then plan to run a 14 DNP cycle to reallly kill the last bit of fat off,Also gonna be running 4iu gh on this cruise when it comes

    My question is can i run an oral while on this cruise maybe for 4 weeks?Or would this defeat the purpose of a cruise?I was thinking of running Var to keep strength up and to harden up
    sure you can

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    sure you can
    LOL, reason?

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    just come off everything give you body a rest do the pct thing and just do 5i.us of gh upon waking. if your on your on and if your off your off simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by ritch View Post
    LOL, reason?
    why not run an oral while cruising? especially while cutting? obviously if your off/cruising for a period of normality for health reasons then the oral will have an impact but thats a given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    why not run an oral while cruising? especially while cutting? obviously if your off/cruising for a period of normality for health reasons then the oral will have an impact but thats a given.
    I think it's a bad idea as you're going down a slippery slope, you allow an oral, then before you know it, you will be adding this and that... A cruise is known to be just test in most cases and think it should be kept at that. Most guys now do a mini cycle between their big cycles.

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    Sounds to me that the op feels like he cant come off for psychological reasons....for fear of being small...pretty typical....diet and training are the real driver...and until the op grasps that he will continue to use too many drugs then needed for fear of poor results....so why ask...just take em..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nymuscle View Post
    what do you guys think?here is a recent pic but i gained a little fat since this pic n im alot softer now

    http://i.imgur.com/boFHS.jpg

    just being honest, i think you need to get your diet under control. you certainly dont look like someone who would be on so many drugs for so long as you have.


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    i agree with s2h i think his diets shit hes gained size and weight but water weight and knows when he comes off he,ll shrink, my advice would to come off everything do the pct thing clean your diet up coz you look like your about 15% bf or holding water and get on gh 5i.us upon rising good luck keep in touch m8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironbrian82 View Post
    i agree with s2h i think his diets shit hes gained size and weight but water weight and knows when he comes off he,ll shrink, my advice would to come off everything do the pct thing clean your diet up coz you look like your about 15% bf or holding water and get on gh 5i.us upon rising good luck keep in touch m8
    It sucks, but sometimes it needs to be done. I blew up in the summer on a shitty diet and have had to come down from 230-190, but I look and feel a hell of a lot better.

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