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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacey View Post
    How much T3 do you take?

    Is that all you are taking with the GH, just 300mg T? That's a pretty low dose of T, I thought... but obviously it's working for you
    50mcg T3, 100mcg T4 and that's all. With GH high there is no need for a lot of Test. I will increase it when gains plateau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushmaster View Post
    50mcg T3, 100mcg T4 and that's all. With GH high there is no need for a lot of Test. I will increase it when gains plateau.
    Thanks for the info. I like the simplicity. Might have to give this approach a try.

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    One thing I am curious about is the long term ramifications of continuous GH use, and more specifically use with t4 year round. I'm curious if using just t4 all the time will cause thyroid shutdown. I know long term t3 use will cause thyroid shutdown, but I'm really not sure about t4 use.

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    Garlic what is long term t3 use for you and how many mcg?....Do you think someone on 50 mcg then up 100 mcg then back down little by little to 25 mcg...for 16 weeks cause some permanent damage?......

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    I personally wouldn't use it for more than 8 weeks, that seems to be a good number to allow proper recovery quickly. As far as dose, anything that replaces your natural production will shut you down. I can't put a specific number on that, but I would throw a rough guess out at anything over 20mcg/day should shut you down. But please don't quote me on that, I'm not that educated on that particular subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarlicChicken View Post
    I personally wouldn't use it for more than 8 weeks, that seems to be a good number to allow proper recovery quickly. As far as dose, anything that replaces your natural production will shut you down. I can't put a specific number on that, but I would throw a rough guess out at anything over 20mcg/day should shut you down. But please don't quote me on that, I'm not that educated on that particular subject.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to GarlicChicken again.

    thanks mann

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    Im injecting 4iu hgh ED and plan to use insulin later this month so will increase hgh dose to 8iu with insulin that have a better result.

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    I'm late to the party, anyways I've been dosing 40iu Somatropin on wakeup and 10 hours later a second 40 iu shot. Been running it for 10 months and I can literally eat anything, It does get pricy but also as a smoker I don't get sick at all where I would usually get sick every month. Muscle recovery isn't overly noticeable but fat loss is extremely visible once you pass that 4 month mark, at least for me.

    Downfall is lethargy after shot, carpal tunnel, and the worst is growing more skeletal mass in places you don't want like your forehead if your doses are too high.

    All in all I will be doing this shit till I go broke.

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    I think you mean 4iu's.

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    yes needed to edit, was just used to slin pins 4iu split, on wakup next 4iu 10 hrs later.

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    HGH is just for people who have a high level of disposable income. You also need to have the connections in the bodybuilding world in order to get legit HGH since getting one without a prescription is almost impossible. Those who cannot afford turn to black market vendors. However, purchasing from these sources are highly unreliable and the products are not questionable. You might not know this, but most HGH users who got their products from black market sources may just be injecting sugar water or what they call the GH-releasing peptides with anti-diuretics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarlicChicken View Post
    One thing I am curious about is the long term ramifications of continuous GH use, and more specifically use with t4 year round. I'm curious if using just t4 all the time will cause thyroid shutdown. I know long term t3 use will cause thyroid shutdown, but I'm really not sure about t4 use.
    there’s studies that show your thyroid will come back when using t3 for long periods of time, like years of usage. not sure about t4. the thyroid will stay shut down when you come off for a couple to a few weeks but it will start producing again. it’s a myth it permanently shuts down or damages it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    there’s studies that show your thyroid will come back when using t3 for long periods of time, like years of usage. not sure about t4. the thyroid will stay shut down when you come off for a couple to a few weeks but it will start producing again. it’s a myth it permanently shuts down or damages it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolan View Post
    Frank Zane?


    proven Studies and Dave Palumbo have both stated that as well

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