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    Quote Originally Posted by seanmech View Post


    Yep dont remember seeing Ronnie pull out the rack, his form may not of been the best but they were off the floor!! Dorian floor, Arnold umm Floor, JoJ yep floor!!
    As I already said, I don't do "rack" pulls, I just take the weight off of a rack and walk it back a couple of feet, then deadlift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXJohnnyJuiceXx View Post
    As I already said, I don't do "rack" pulls, I just take the weight off of a rack and walk it back a couple of feet, then deadlift.
    I switch on and off. It makes no difference. I still pull 600+ for reps both ways. It makes it easier to load the weight on off the rack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    I switch on and off.
    I do the same thing. Rack pulls one week, deads the next.

    As I've said before, I think rack pulls are superior to deadlifts for isolating the lats, though deadlifts are better for overall development of power and strength. When you initialize your pull in the rack from a bit higher up you are using much more of your back to get that weight up as opposed to deadlifting, where much of the weight initially is lifted with the glutes and legs and then that momentum carries into the lift when the back takes over.

    Anyway, both have their place.

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    a buddy of mine has a pretty good deadlift @ 200lbs he can pull a little over 600. he usually starts the lift off the rack but steps back and does full range reps. however once he nears a powerlifting meet he just pulls off the floor.

    i think there is a difference between starting off the rack and a "dead" weight off the floor myself.

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    Of course there is, it's kinetic energy. Bench press is the same way, 2 second pause at the chest vs. up down up down

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    Check out how Yates deadlifted, from the floor then to mid shin for the reps= constant tension on the body.

    I think if your training for bodybuilding thats the best way, it puts the most stress on the muscle and every time you drop the weight to the floor you get that little bounce and momentum, and from talking to my chiropractor he said every time you rest the weight on the floor even just during reps he said you have a much higher chance of injury because you midsection relaxes and when you tighten back up for the next rep you could be out of bio mechanical alignment.

    But if your power lifting or strongman training its probly best full reps from and to the floor each rep if thats what you going to be competing in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridairon View Post
    Check out how Yates deadlifted, from the floor then to mid shin for the reps= constant tension on the body.

    I think if your training for bodybuilding thats the best way, it puts the most stress on the muscle and every time you drop the weight to the floor you get that little bounce and momentum, and from talking to my chiropractor he said every time you rest the weight on the floor even just during reps he said you have a much higher chance of injury because you midsection relaxes and when you tighten back up for the next rep you could be out of bio mechanical alignment.

    But if your power lifting or strongman training its probly best full reps from and to the floor each rep if thats what you going to be competing in.
    I would agree with that, with what your chiropractor said. When I used to deadlift, I would let the weight touch the floor and go right back up. I tried not to let it "bounce" off the floor but it felt safer doing it that way than stopping on the floor between each rep because I felt tighter throughout the set. If I stopped each rep by letting it stay on the floor for a second, it seemed to be easier to hurt myself with the muscles relaxing for a second before pulling the weight back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chode Logan View Post
    His back looks great, if it didn't, he wouldn't have put it as his Avy. He just wanted someone to say nice things to him
    Jesus christ you're clever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by data View Post
    to be honest i think what holds a lot of bbers back is not training heavy enough. i see the same guys day in and day out doing the same weight in strict form and not getting anywhere. i'm a fan of letting go of form for some heavy ass weights.
    That was my issue. My legs have become my dominant body part and I realized that it was due to always doing heavy squats on leg day. In this next season I'll be incorporating a lot more heavy lifts into my back workout and am interested in seeing the results. Like John Hansen mentioned, I also would frequently use the machines and shit for back, which got me nowhere. Since I have switched to more rowing and heavier types of lifts I have already seen back growth. I know my back sucks, and that is what this off-season will focus on fixing. I have it displayed in my avatar as my motivation to bring up my weakness lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXJohnnyJuiceXx View Post
    As I already said, I don't do "rack" pulls, I just take the weight off of a rack and walk it back a couple of feet, then deadlift.
    No problems dude! Just read ur post

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanmech View Post
    No problems dude! Just read ur post
    It's cool bro.


    I must say back is a weak point for me as well. Not really when it comes to lats or width, but when it comes to inner back thickness overall, from the trap area to halfway down my back. I have good lat and lower back development, I just could never get the thickness in there. I think it was due to years of poor deadlift form. I never used to try and squeeze my back at the top of the motion, I would just go up and down, in ways only stimulating my lower back muscles, when deadlifts are meant to work the back overall. Now at the top, i bring my rear delts back and try to feel the squeeze as much as possible. But with the 495 set, i can barely squeeze. And with the 545 set, well thats just for my ego...LOL, it is pretty good form though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshbarnett View Post
    deadlifts!!

    That's what I was about to say. One of the greatest exercises to do but shit will drain the fucking life out of you.

    Another reason I see why guys workout the way the do is because of the ladies. I decided to ask a BUNCH, and I mean at least 40-50, what they found attractive on guys.

    Well arms was on the top of the list, then shoulders(because of the arms), chest, and then abs...some cared about guys not having chicken legs and A LOT of them didn't . So nobody cared about backs(maybe one chick did but she still was the typical about everything else). Funny thing is that you could have massive everything and females would love that and really not care about abs. A very high percentage of them would pick a guy with 18" arms rather than some ripped up dude with 16" arms.

    I went to the gym at UT Austin couple of times and every guy have a good size arm and nothing else...and I mean nothing! When I started doing deadlifts people stared like it was something new :|

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