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    Quote Originally Posted by curt james View Post
    i do.



    free victor!
    x 2!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shredstack View Post
    Are you being serious? Sadly, I think you are. He didn't rape, he didn't hurt anyone, in fact he helped people. He is a nice guy. I met him on the street in Washington Heights in 2007 and he was so friendly and nice to a complete stranger. His charges were steroid related. Many many many bodybuilders are involved in AAS. Providing good AAS to people is a noble act! Would you rather people be injecting rat poison from IP? Your a sicko. Victor is a hero, not some criminal you make him out to be.
    Get your story straight, he wasn't just selling steroids. The fact he was selling drugs and making a profit, tax-free is a problem as well. The fact he had a year to renew his visa and didn't, makes me disgusted at his laziness. How is Victor a hero? There are thousands of troops defending the rights and laws we have in this country, that Victor is pissing all over with his laziness. He had ONE YEAR to renew it, shame on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
    Well, this is uncomfortable.

    Quote Originally Posted by AVBG View Post
    why's that Padawan?
    Victor haturz, Master. There is a disturbance in the Force. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by AVBG View Post
    Victor does deserve better
    Agreed.

    I wouldn't necessarily call him a hero, but I gotta love a fellow procrastinator. (see below)

    Quote Originally Posted by shredstack View Post
    Are you being serious? Sadly, I think you are. He didn't rape, he didn't hurt anyone, in fact he helped people. He is a nice guy. I met him on the street in Washington Heights in 2007 and he was so friendly and nice to a complete stranger. His charges were steroid related. Many many many bodybuilders are involved in AAS. Providing good AAS to people is a noble act! Would you rather people be injecting rat poison from IP? Your a sicko. Victor is a hero, not some criminal you make him out to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    Get your story straight, he wasn't just selling steroids. The fact he was selling drugs and making a profit, tax-free is a problem as well. The fact he had a year to renew his visa and didn't, makes me disgusted at his laziness. How is Victor a hero? There are thousands of troops defending the rights and laws we have in this country, that Victor is pissing all over with his laziness. He had ONE YEAR to renew it, shame on him.
    Live and learn. Hopefully Victor will be out soon and can continue his life.

    He really is what seems like one hell of a nice guy. Met him years ago when he guest posed at a show in Maryland. Just a handshake and a few words.

    He was there long after the show had ended. Men were stacking up chairs and Vic was still talking with fans and friends at the venue.

    Saw him again when he guest posed with Phil Heath at the 2008 NPC Maryland.

    Last edited by Curt James; 04-23-2012 at 08:20 PM.

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    I talked to an ICE agent at my gym and the way they are handling this is not that uncommon. He felt like there was a very good chance Vic could be deported. I hope he's wrong, but the past drug arrest doesn't help.

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    his choices landed hime where he is. just like dave said, he makes poor choices.

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    His a very nice bodybuilder so I respect him and support him.

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    i hope all these people on here hating on vik have never made any mistakes!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreen1 View Post
    i hope all these people on here hating on vik have never made any mistakes!!
    A mistake is a week late.. A year is disgusting laziness and abuse of the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyeell0499 View Post
    his choices landed hime where he is. just like dave said, he makes poor choices.
    Heard a very young student talking with a classmate about Spider-Man. Had to laugh when I heard, "The Green Goblin made bad choices!"

    Anyway, Big Vic is Dominican. Dominicans can do no wrong!

    Plus, Matty, you a vet? If you're going to wave the flag and criticize a guy for abusing the system then I hope you have a DD-214.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
    Heard a very young student talking with a classmate about Spider-Man. Had to laugh when I heard, "The Green Goblin made bad choices!"

    Anyway, Big Vic is Dominican. Dominicans can do no wrong!

    Plus, Matty, you a vet? If you're going to wave the flag and criticize a guy for abusing the system then I hope you have a DD-214.
    Please explain to me how am I abusing the system?! I am a legal US citizen, I pay my taxes, and vote every election.. But because I am not military personell I am not allowed to have an opinion on immigration laws, which would be my first amendment right??? If anything YOU are abusing the system, supporting someone breaking US laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    There are thousands of troops defending the rights and laws we have in this country
    See below.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    Please explain to me how am I abusing the system?! I am a legal US citizen, I pay my taxes, and vote every election.. But because I am not military personell I am not allowed to have an opinion on immigration laws, which would be my first amendment right??? If anything YOU are abusing the system, supporting someone breaking US laws.
    You're the one who mentioned the troops.

    And just where do you draw the line at "someone breaking US laws"? I'm assuming -- perhaps unfairly -- you've broken at least one.

    For that matter, what I've read from you in this thread is more admonishing Martinez and less immigration law opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
    See below.



    You're the one who mentioned the troops.

    And just where do you draw the line at "someone breaking US laws"? I'm assuming -- perhaps unfairly -- you've broken at least one.

    For that matter, what I've read from you in this thread is more admonishing Martinez and less immigration law opinion.
    I think Matty's real issue was with his laziness. How can you argue the fact Vic was lazy, didn't renew his papers and deserves to be put in jail for it? How simple is it? If you get a ticket you show up to court or you get a warrant. If you get a warrant you get arrested. And you deserve it. How can you argue this? It is very simple.

    For whatever reason, we don't know, but Vic didn't renew his visa. How can you feel sorry for that? Some douchebag goes 65 in a 25 in some neighborhood and gets a ticket, doesn't show to court and gets arrested.. You feel sorry for him? Of course not. Why Vic? Bad decision on his part and he's paying for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrett View Post
    I think Matty's real issue was with his laziness. How can you argue the fact Vic was lazy, didn't renew his papers and deserves to be put in jail for it? How simple is it? If you get a ticket you show up to court or you get a warrant. If you get a warrant you get arrested. And you deserve it. How can you argue this? It is very simple.

    For whatever reason, we don't know, but Vic didn't renew his visa. How can you feel sorry for that? Some douchebag goes 65 in a 25 in some neighborhood and gets a ticket, doesn't show to court and gets arrested.. You feel sorry for him? Of course not. Why Vic? Bad decision on his part and he's paying for it.
    The laziness seems to be an issue when it comes to his training and/or dieting as well. Victor has a ton of genetic potential and seems to rely on this fact rather than really do what is necessary to place where he should be placing...never seems to come in very good at shows.

    Not trying to bash him, I'm sure he's a nice guy, and he's a great bodybuilder. But I think he could be a lot better, and it's a shame that he isn't.

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    This. Some people will just nuthug because it's bodybuilding related.

    But I'll echo what was said earlier, who cares.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barrett View Post
    I think Matty's real issue was with his laziness. How can you argue the fact Vic was lazy, didn't renew his papers and deserves to be put in jail for it? How simple is it? If you get a ticket you show up to court or you get a warrant. If you get a warrant you get arrested. And you deserve it. How can you argue this? It is very simple.

    For whatever reason, we don't know, but Vic didn't renew his visa. How can you feel sorry for that? Some douchebag goes 65 in a 25 in some neighborhood and gets a ticket, doesn't show to court and gets arrested.. You feel sorry for him? Of course not. Why Vic? Bad decision on his part and he's paying for it.
    Last edited by natenator; 04-24-2012 at 09:18 PM.

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