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    Ok, my history. I am a 41 year old single male who (used to anyway) keeps in shape so that I can best pursue my lifelong passion of hunting and solo hiking. About 18 months ago, I fell for one of those crazy hot women that you cant get enough of. Empasis on the "crazy". Hunting, hiking, and working out went out the window. Today, she is gone and I am a soft 5'6" 190lb lump of shit. Along the way, I developed "low T".

    I am working hard to get back in shape. What I need is advice on supplements etc.. to take. Other than musclemilk, I never took anything but my age combined with my low testosterone and the extra 20 lbs I have packed on have caused me to be more open minded. The doc put me on one tube of Testim a day which will be increased to two within a month to help with the low T.

    What else should I take to maximize the Testim, regain my strength, and cut the fat?

    My workout consists of lots of compound exercises using sand filled gravel bags, cross country hiking with an over-weighted pack, and wind sprints with the pack on. I dont hit the iron much, anymore, because this type of workout helps me with my hobbies more than anything.

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, bros.

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    diet your ass off and get in the gym on a real weight lifting program. and get on some injectable test.

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    thanks for that intelligent, chock full of information reply.

    What injectables do you recommend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHunter View Post
    thanks for that intelligent, chock full of information reply.

    What injectables do you recommend?
    I second what bc said. He gave you his recommendation for injectables, test being what you want to run. Guarantee your T levels are still in the shitter with testim
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHunter View Post
    Ok, my history. I am a 41 year old single male who (used to anyway) keeps in shape so that I can best pursue my lifelong passion of hunting and solo hiking. About 18 months ago, I fell for one of those crazy hot women that you cant get enough of. Empasis on the "crazy". Hunting, hiking, and working out went out the window. Today, she is gone and I am a soft 5'6" 190lb lump of shit. Along the way, I developed "low T".

    I am working hard to get back in shape. What I need is advice on supplements etc.. to take. Other than musclemilk, I never took anything but my age combined with my low testosterone and the extra 20 lbs I have packed on have caused me to be more open minded. The doc put me on one tube of Testim a day which will be increased to two within a month to help with the low T.

    What else should I take to maximize the Testim, regain my strength, and cut the fat?

    My workout consists of lots of compound exercises using sand filled gravel bags, cross country hiking with an over-weighted pack, and wind sprints with the pack on. I dont hit the iron much, anymore, because this type of workout helps me with my hobbies more than anything.

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, bros.
    your already doing it all. you dont need any sups. just keep plugging away and make sure your diet is healthy.

    whats your daily diet look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC123Jm View Post
    diet your ass off and get in the gym on a real weight lifting program. and get on some injectable test.
    hes not trying to be a bber. why all of that? creams get you normal and his weighted cardio is ideal training for both of his goals.

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    Well said joe d, I agree...
    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    hes not trying to be a bber. why all of that? creams get you normal and his weighted cardio is ideal training for both of his goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    hes not trying to be a bber. why all of that? creams get you normal and his weighted cardio is ideal training for both of his goals.
    He wants to improve his body comp. Weight training and the subsequent muscular development has metabolic benefits that cardio does not ie enhanced metabolic rate, better glucose utilization, improved lean to fat mass ratio. And we can all agree the diet is the most factor here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson829 View Post
    He wants to improve his body comp. Weight training and the subsequent muscular development has metabolic benefits that cardio does not ie enhanced metabolic rate, better glucose utilization, improved lean to fat mass ratio. And we can all agree the diet is the most factor here
    again hes not a bber. i dont think your reading his whole post. he wants to lose fat and regain his strength. he wants to get back into his hiking and hunting. he is doing compound movements with sand bags, and hiking with added weight. he already has the training covered. obviously the gym wouldnt hurt but its not needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson829 View Post
    He wants to improve his body comp. Weight training and the subsequent muscular development has metabolic benefits that cardio does not ie enhanced metabolic rate, better glucose utilization, improved lean to fat mass ratio. And we can all agree the diet is the most factor here
    hah i see the post you where referring to of mine didnt include the weight training he was already doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    again hes not a bber. i dont think your reading his whole post. he wants to lose fat and regain his strength. he wants to get back into his hiking and hunting. he is doing compound movements with sand bags, and hiking with added weight. he already has the training covered. obviously the gym wouldnt hurt but its not needed.
    I read the part where he said he wants to "regain..strength and cut the fat" Bodybuilder or not I still say weights is the best way to accomplish that goal. Obviously, he should also train for what he loves to do but there is a decision that is going to have to be made between improved body comp and being better at a certain sport. Sure, he'll cut weight with the cardio that he's doing but without a good diet dialed in (which I don't think he has, no offense) he will sacrifice a lot of lean tissue doing what he's doing now. Too much of that long winded cardio can really leave a man skinny-fat especially if the protein isn't there. Hunter, I suggest you go out and get yourself a quality whey protein isolate supplement and have 2 shakes a day, or even continue to use Muscle Milk 2x per day just to add extra protein to your diet. In the mean time, learn as much as you can about nutrition that would be my focus.

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    well read the other parts where he says he's lifting also lol. yes the diet. we are all asking to see it op?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHunter View Post
    My workout consists of lots of compound exercises using sand filled gravel bags, cross country hiking with an over-weighted pack, and wind sprints with the pack on. I dont hit the iron much, anymore, because this type of workout helps me with my hobbies more than anything.
    Am I missing something??

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    Diet is definitely a determining factor. You cannot outwork a bad diet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson829 View Post
    Am I missing something??
    yea the sentence before the one you turned red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    yea the sentence before the one you turned red.
    Not on the same page here. I don't believe the long winded cardio will do much for body comp. Not going to turn this into a pissing match. I've said my piece.

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    Weight training would definitely help... What is Testim?

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    testim= bullshit....250mg Tcyp a week & better diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson829 View Post
    Not on the same page here. I don't believe the long winded cardio will do much for body comp. Not going to turn this into a pissing match. I've said my piece.
    this is weight training "My workout consists of lots of compound exercises using sand filled gravel bags"

    a gym may be preferred by some but isnt needed to weight train, especially when your not bbing.

    im not trying to have a pissing match either but i am trying to help out the op. while theres nothing wrong with a gym its just not needed for the stated goals since he is already weight training with the movements that build strength whick is what he wants.
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    OK just looked up testim... Did you try any supplementation/drugs to try to boost your natural test production before going on it?

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    Thanks for suggestions. It will beneficial for me as well because i have also the same problem.

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