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    Default Testosterone therapy for joint issues?

    Hey all,


    I’ve got a question that I hope you all can help me with. I’m 23 and I’ve been powerlifting for a few years. I’ve racked up a few injuries (sprains, etc) but nothing too serious until I was transferred to Asia to work on a series of very important but time consuming projects. I was working a lot, not sleeping or taking my recovery seriously, eating bad food, and still trying to move weight around. As a result, when I left my post there, I ended up with two labrum tears (each shoulder), two meniscal tears (each knee), and hip and wrist issues. When I returned to the US, I went from being very fit and active to basically a fat, lazy inactive SOB.


    It’s been about 1 year since my return to the US and I’ve already gotten 1 shoulder surgery which has really been a depressing process because the recovery is so damn slow. I’m pursuing prolotherapy / PRP injections for my other injuries, and I’m happy to note that one knee seems to be completely stable (first time in really several months), and the others injuries are definitely progressing.


    I switched doctors for my prolotherapy injections and my new one has taken a look at my medical history and has said that these injuries can’t merely be incidental - they might be due to some underlying immune or hormonal deficiency or something. All the stress, crap I’d been ingesting may’ve caught up to me.


    He recommended I pursue hormone testing and the tests came back showing I’ve got abnormally low cortisol levels (2.1 ng/ml - which the lab stated as very low) and pretty low Testosterone levels for my age, apparently (72 pg/ml). Now, I am a little skeptical because these are saliva tests and not blood tests so I don’t know how accurate those tests are? Can test therapy even help w/ joints/prolotherapy?


    Sorry for the novel, hope someone’s been through this!

    Thanks!

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    Regarding cortisol levels, it all depends on what the level is. If cortisol is abnormally low, it could lead to muscle weakness. Regarding your testosterone level, I assume it's total testosterone that was measured. it is lower than normal range. Both of these issues need to be addressed by your health care provider. If your primary practitioner cannot answer why these levels are low and how they are effecting you, perhaps they will refer you to an endocrinologist to fully evaluate your issues.

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    As for your question about test improving joint health, that's a big fat NO it does not. Deca, equipoise, anavar, primbolone, and hgh do help a lot with joint health. Hgh is #1. Equipoise is #2. Deca#3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRage93 View Post
    As for your question about test improving joint health, that's a big fat NO it does not. Deca, equipoise, anavar, primbolone, and hgh do help a lot with joint health. Hgh is #1. Equipoise is #2. Deca#3.
    An Hgh and Deca combo works wonders on joint health, some people who have been in agony for years show remarkable results.
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    I just had surgery on the 15th of last month to reattach my left biceps to the forearm. I have not been using anti estrogens for about a year and believe that elevated estrogen was weakening my tendons over this time while continuing on a blast dosage throughout. I am now on trt dosage and hoping that this will reveres itself. My question is, if this does reverse itself, about how long would that take?

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    You can consider getting your estradiol level now and then repeating it in about 3 months. You should see a decrease in the estrogen produced by the high testosterone levels to get back to normal now that you are on a lower dose of testosterone.

    Men need some estrogen since it is cardioprotective. In addition, I have read that keeping the estrogen at an average level for men helps to decrease gut girth.

    Joel Nathan, MD

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