If it fits your macros trend

**symphonyofdreams** · 06-01-2012, 10:16 PM

Seems like this is the big trend i've been seeing everyone where people include some bad fats/carbs as long as it fits their macro goals. I must say though 99 percent of the people following it look like shit or get skinny to get lean. seems especially with naturals that guys hormones go to shit and they keep lowering calories to get lean and they end up skinny or skinny fat. whats your guys take ? I know alot of guys on here that look great like BC swear by clean foods not just keeping track of macros.

**Hydroshake** · 06-01-2012, 10:24 PM

you been hanging out in the misc too much brah.

i think it's good if you do it on a bulk. why go through unnecessary suffering?

unless you're a hard gainer ectomorph or just have a terrible appetite, i don't think it's the best idea to do that when cutting.

IIFYM is greatly exaggerated though. you're not supposed to eat pop tarts and doritos all day. you first reach your macros and if you have calories left over, a bit of ice cream won't ruin your diet or your health.

**juiceinator3000** · 06-01-2012, 11:47 PM

Stay away from bb.com that's all I have to say about that.

**MiamiMadePunk** · 06-02-2012, 02:12 AM

What's funny is that the same guys doing bench and curls 5x a week are on IIFYM.

**Costco77** · 06-02-2012, 02:26 AM

Calories are calories...to a certain extent.

Once bodybuilders/fitness enthusiasts figure this out it makes their life a whole lot more enjoyable. BB.com has a lot of smart posters in the nutrition section that has more registered dietitian's (RD) than this site and muscular development combined. (S/O to Alan Aragon!)

If you want to enjoy your life and still look great hit the gym hard - enjoy your workout, have an awesome meal once a day, eat your favorite foods, have a glass or two of beer, wine just reduce the kcals in your previous meals. Believe me it's possible people. That's all I'll say for now........

**Costco77** · 06-02-2012, 02:35 AM

Eat good food, it puts you in a good mood

**symphonyofdreams** · 06-02-2012, 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by Costco77

Eat good food, it puts you in a good mood

I guess it works for people that can eat shit food in moderation. the type of meals i like would put me above my total number of calories and macros on fats/ carbs in one sitting. I'd rather not have a tiny portion of the sutff i like and have to stop eating it. It's like going to a strip club and paying 100 bucks to have a 10 tease you and you go home with blue balls.

**Costco77** · 06-02-2012, 04:35 AM

Eat fewer bigger meals, doesn't need to be tiny portions.

I'm not talking about junk food like getting Twinkies for your main carb source, although it is possible to lose weight (http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08...sor/index.html). I'm talking about having the freedom to eat food that tastes good.

Say your macros break down so that you're looking at 40 g protein/20 g fat/40 carbs for the first meal.

For breakfast you could have your favorite cereal with a glass of milk, protein shake, peanut butter on English muffin. All of which could easily fit those macros or...

Say you like an egg breakfast and you like bacon. You could have two whole eggs, 4 egg whites, 3 slices of bacon and toast with jelly. That would fit in those macros

Yesterday I had a BBQ pulled pork sandwhich with baked beans the macros broke down roughly..:
Sandwhich bun 30g carbs, BBQ sauce 16g carbs, baked beans 25g carbs/5g fat/6 protein, pulled pork 35g protein 15g fats.
Total: 71g carbs/20g fats/41g protein

*BBQ sauce didn't hold back Ronnie

**Dee** · 06-02-2012, 07:52 AM

Yeah but the majority of people don't have the genetics or metabolism of Ronnie Coleman...

Principle like this can be used, but it creates opportunities to fuck up a diet so I'd keep it to a minimum.....they sell all these '100 calorie' packs or snacks or candy bars so you can plan to use them in your diet.... Most ppl I know end up eating like 3 of them lol

**Taylor Normandeau** · 06-02-2012, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by juiceinator3000

Stay away from bb.com that's all I have to say about that.

Amen

**Conrad** · 06-02-2012, 01:57 PM

BB.com is not a place to get advice. calories are calories over there..lol

**knockout ted** · 06-02-2012, 02:46 PM

IIFYM is an approach that would benefit a lot of bodybuilders who suffer from orthorexia nervosa. I don't ever hear about enhanced bodybuilders preaching IIFYM, only natural bodybuilders who get just as lean or leaner then enhanced bodybuilders. It would be interesting to hear Dave or Chris's opinion about this topic.

**lksurf2** · 06-02-2012, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by juiceinator3000

Stay away from bb.com that's all I have to say about that.

repped

**juiceinator3000** · 06-02-2012, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by knockout ted

IIFYM is an approach that would benefit a lot of bodybuilders who suffer from orthorexia nervosa. I don't ever hear about enhanced bodybuilders preaching IIFYM, only natural bodybuilders who get just as lean or leaner then enhanced bodybuilders. It would be interesting to hear Dave or Chris's opinion about this topic.

Coming from a completely natural background and switching tto enhanced a year ago I completely disagree with this.