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Thread: Nolvadex or Arimidex?
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04-16-2009, 10:18 AM #16
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You are not the only woman who 'bridges'. I have talked to many online who do the same. I only started using AAS in 2006 and at conservative doses. After prep was over in 2007, I took a break from everything just because I felt tired of it all, to be honest. What I found interesting is that I actually felt my body "right" itself after a couple of months. It's hard to explain what that means, but I am very in tune with my body (as we all should be when running AAS) and saw the little changes in things like how my skin & hair felt, the rate at which my hair grew, my period coming back, etc. It further helped me understand the differences in my body between "on" and "off".
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04-16-2009, 01:11 PM #17
Interesting stuff- I'm eating lunch and just poked my head in here. I've never used either- but I was wondering about the potential side affects of both? What about rebounding- what can women expect to see and feel in their bodies coming off these two drugs?
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04-16-2009, 01:13 PM #18
I've always done well on nolva but oh my dear lord I rebounded like a mofo on arimidex when I used it with my first show...to quote Melissa D, it made me blow up, "like opening a can of bisuits!"
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04-16-2009, 01:35 PM #19
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04-16-2009, 01:36 PM #20
The body will always normalize and bounce back after a little while. Even men who shut themselves down by running androgens with no test bounce back eventually. The adjustment period can be psychologically taxing, so running PCT ensures that things normalize quicker making it a smoother transition. But that is the beauty of the human body. Cells regenerate and everything will fix itself eventually.
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04-16-2009, 01:38 PM #21
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04-16-2009, 01:43 PM #22
I would not mess with any liquid shit. Liquid Adex and LiquiNol I would stay away from because the drug is never evenly suspended within the liquid.
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04-16-2009, 01:45 PM #23
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04-16-2009, 05:04 PM #24
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i think as long as you taper it your fine. stopping it cold turkey i have heard is where the rebounding can occur.
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04-16-2009, 05:11 PM #25
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04-16-2009, 05:43 PM #26
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also too much AI and you can get some bone resorbtion. Tamoxifen is what is called a "partial agonist," meaning it does bind and activate estrogen receptors a little bit, just much less than estrogen.
With tamoxifen you dont get the problems with bone resorbtion/bone loss.
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04-16-2009, 10:31 PM #27
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04-20-2009, 06:20 PM #28
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04-22-2009, 03:52 PM #29
This is what the British National Formulary says about these drugs:
Arimidex/Anastrozole
Cautions: not for pre-menopausal women/not for women with susceptibility to osteoporosis
Contra-indications: moderate or severe hepatic (liver) disease; moderate or severe renal (kidney) disease
Side effects: hot flushes, vaginal dryness, vaginal bleeding, hair thinning, anorexia, nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, headache, arthralgia (joint pain), bone fractures, rash, asthenia (physical weakness and loss of strength), drowsiness, slight increases in total cholesterol, very rarely allergic reactions including angioedema (swelling of skin) and anaphylaxis (closing of throat/severe allergy)
Dose: 1 mg daily
It is expensive, the NHS pays £ 68.56 for a one month supply.
Nolvadex/Tamoxifen
This is prescribed to pre-menopausal women
Cautions: occasional cycstic ovarian swelling, endometrial (lining of the uterus) changes, porphyrias (problems with manufacturing haemoglobin)
Contra indications: pregnancy and advise non-hormonal birth control pills
Side effects: hot flushes, vaginal bleeding and vaginal discharge, suppression of menstruation in some pre-menopausal women, pruitus vulvae (some yucky skin disorder that itches), gastrointestinal disturbances (upset stomach and gas?), headache, light-headedness, tumour flare, decreased platelet counts, occasionally oedema (water retention), alopecia (hair loss), uterine fibroids, visual disturbances including corneal changes, cataracts, retinopathy, leucopenia (fewer white cells which fight infection) sometimes with anaemia and thrombocytopenia (fewer red blood cells and platelets), hypertriglyceraemia (higher levels of trig in blood), thromboembolitic events reported (throwing a blood clot), liver enzyme changes
Dose: breast cancer 20 mg daily
anovulartory infertility: 20 mg daily on day 2, 3, 4, and 5 of cycle
A 20 mg tablet packet with 30 tabs = £ 1.66
Astra Zenica Nolvadex-D 20 mg 30 tab pack = £ 8.71
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