Summer cycle girls?

[world-pharma]

Girls,what do you take most for summer cycle? can you write it here,thanks.

[fishmeat]

Theyb shy with u primo. Var. Winny. Letro. T3.T4 & clen.

[sassy69]

I honestly dont' think I've ever heard any woman talk about a "summer cycle". Its usually either an off-season bulker or a competition cutter.

[sassy69]

Theyb shy with u primo. Var. Winny. Letro. T3.T4 & clen.

If anyone reading this is getting ideas, the one thing I'd warn about is using aromatase inhibitors like letrozole, arimidex, aromasin. None of the AAs you mention actually aromatises, so there's no reason to use an AI to counter that effect. But more so, AIs are fairly agressive and pretty much shut off estrogen. Which may sound great except this produces dramatic drying in the joints which can really hurt and potentially result in injury if you're trying to lift heavy or "work thru it" - usually your joints are the weakest link when it comes to lifting, and tendonitis and such never really seems to go away once you experience it.

The bigger issue is when you shut down estrogen and then come off (because none of this stuff is a "fat loss maintenance protocol"), the rebound can be very dramatic and approximate menopause (e.g. hot / cold flashes, dramatic water retention, etc.) while your body tries to re-establish hormonal homeostasis. This is not the stuff that guys deal w/ so when guys recommend cutters, they probably don't consider the additional impact of dramatic hormone manipulation - both of testosterone as well as estrogen.

And aside from the visible stuff like above, there are other more subtle effects such as dry skin, hairloss, etc. In the extreme w/ extended use, you can look at basically early menopause, but also in the extreme, extended suppression of the menstrual cycle, along w/ stress, very low bodyfat, etc. is the source of what is referred to as the Female Athlete Triad --- osteoporosis, etc.

Another side that women experience from extreme dieting, competition stress, estrogen manipulation is greater chance of thyroid issue.

So bottom line on the stuff listed -

- AAS - know what you're doing - but when you come off, the stuff will attenuate at its half-life - generally no dramatic rebound (unless you just get sloppy w/ diet & training) and your body adjusts as the compound leaves your system.

- "anti - estrogens"
-- Aromatase inhibitors (e.g. letro/femara, arimidex, aromasin) - as mentioned above - these are primary intended to reduce conversion of an exogenous test source such as test prop, NPP or some aromatizing compound to estrogen (typically seen as bloating, "moon face", etc.) - since women don't generally use the more aggressive compounds and none of these are listed in the above post anyway -we don't need to go there - and also just to "lose the estrogen-driven fat depositing" - these are generally overkill for the additional side effects coming from aggressive estrogen shut down, and the subsequent rebound.
-- selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs) - e.g. nolvadex - operate on the natural estrogen process - still work towards estro shut down, but just not as dramatic as AIs. Still need to know what you're doing and should not be considered a "fat loss protocol" - use strictly for a competition or some target date where you use it to cut, get on stage, then plan to experience some rebound as your body adjusts back to normal. Ain't nuttin for free.

T3/T4 - thyroid medication - just pay attention to what you are doing. This also should not be seen as a 'fat loss maintenance protocol'. Especially for women, the thyroid seems to be tightly associated to the biochemical state of your body - estrogen levels, stress levels, bodyfat levels, etc.

Clen - again - pay attention to what you are doing - people like clen because it is "anti-catabolic" and bumps up fat burning a bit more than OTC thermos, but it is still a prescription medication, it will jack up your stress levels, affect the quality of your sleep and don't expect it to be the miracle drug if your diet and training aren't already well-established and working.

Generally women don't seem to be able to as readily rely on drugs as easily as men to get results because there is such a big need to balance w/ the body's response to hormone manipulation - particularly w/ all the natural survival strategies the body has in place, ultimately intended to provide the greatest protection to the female body's ability to produce and protect a fetus. The more you can do through diet and training and general conditioning of the environment your body operates in (how you fuel, how you exert energy, the quality of your sleep / recovery, your stress levels, etc.), the more you can achieve and maintain your goals. Everything you stick in your body to produce a particular result is something the body has to rebalance itself to and deal with as best it can. Being 10% bodyfat w/ big boobs and great skin is completely counter to what the female body is designed for (most female bodies anyway), so you need to work w/ what your body will do vs forcing it to do something that it just isn't really designed for. Your body will win the battle every time. If it decides it just can't accommodate what you want in the time you want it, it will just go into metabolic shutdown, you start getting exhausted and sick, and it all just goes downhill from there.

[fishmeat]

I suppose you've seen some of the recent posts ?
I wasnt trying to mislead anyone into any ideas, so please forgive me ?

[sassy69]

I suppose you've seen some of the recent posts ?
I wasnt trying to mislead anyone into any ideas, so please forgive me ?

Nope -- just keeping context - lots of people just scan posts and get ideas w/o knowing wtf they are getting into.

[juiceinator3000]

If anyone reading this is getting ideas, the one thing I'd warn about is using aromatase inhibitors like letrozole, arimidex, aromasin. None of the AAs you mention actually aromatises, so there's no reason to use an AI to counter that effect. But more so, AIs are fairly agressive and pretty much shut off estrogen. Which may sound great except this produces dramatic drying in the joints which can really hurt and potentially result in injury if you're trying to lift heavy or "work thru it" - usually your joints are the weakest link when it comes to lifting, and tendonitis and such never really seems to go away once you experience it.

The bigger issue is when you shut down estrogen and then come off (because none of this stuff is a "fat loss maintenance protocol"), the rebound can be very dramatic and approximate menopause (e.g. hot / cold flashes, dramatic water retention, etc.) while your body tries to re-establish hormonal homeostasis. This is not the stuff that guys deal w/ so when guys recommend cutters, they probably don't consider the additional impact of dramatic hormone manipulation - both of testosterone as well as estrogen.

And aside from the visible stuff like above, there are other more subtle effects such as dry skin, hairloss, etc. In the extreme w/ extended use, you can look at basically early menopause, but also in the extreme, extended suppression of the menstrual cycle, along w/ stress, very low bodyfat, etc. is the source of what is referred to as the Female Athlete Triad --- osteoporosis, etc.

Another side that women experience from extreme dieting, competition stress, estrogen manipulation is greater chance of thyroid issue.

So bottom line on the stuff listed -

- AAS - know what you're doing - but when you come off, the stuff will attenuate at its half-life - generally no dramatic rebound (unless you just get sloppy w/ diet & training) and your body adjusts as the compound leaves your system.

- "anti - estrogens"
-- Aromatase inhibitors (e.g. letro/femara, arimidex, aromasin) - as mentioned above - these are primary intended to reduce conversion of an exogenous test source such as test prop, NPP or some aromatizing compound to estrogen (typically seen as bloating, "moon face", etc.) - since women don't generally use the more aggressive compounds and none of these are listed in the above post anyway -we don't need to go there - and also just to "lose the estrogen-driven fat depositing" - these are generally overkill for the additional side effects coming from aggressive estrogen shut down, and the subsequent rebound.
-- selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs) - e.g. nolvadex - operate on the natural estrogen process - still work towards estro shut down, but just not as dramatic as AIs. Still need to know what you're doing and should not be considered a "fat loss protocol" - use strictly for a competition or some target date where you use it to cut, get on stage, then plan to experience some rebound as your body adjusts back to normal. Ain't nuttin for free.

T3/T4 - thyroid medication - just pay attention to what you are doing. This also should not be seen as a 'fat loss maintenance protocol'. Especially for women, the thyroid seems to be tightly associated to the biochemical state of your body - estrogen levels, stress levels, bodyfat levels, etc.

Clen - again - pay attention to what you are doing - people like clen because it is "anti-catabolic" and bumps up fat burning a bit more than OTC thermos, but it is still a prescription medication, it will jack up your stress levels, affect the quality of your sleep and don't expect it to be the miracle drug if your diet and training aren't already well-established and working.

Generally women don't seem to be able to as readily rely on drugs as easily as men to get results because there is such a big need to balance w/ the body's response to hormone manipulation - particularly w/ all the natural survival strategies the body has in place, ultimately intended to provide the greatest protection to the female body's ability to produce and protect a fetus. The more you can do through diet and training and general conditioning of the environment your body operates in (how you fuel, how you exert energy, the quality of your sleep / recovery, your stress levels, etc.), the more you can achieve and maintain your goals. Everything you stick in your body to produce a particular result is something the body has to rebalance itself to and deal with as best it can. Being 10% bodyfat w/ big boobs and great skin is completely counter to what the female body is designed for (most female bodies anyway), so you need to work w/ what your body will do vs forcing it to do something that it just isn't really designed for. Your body will win the battle every time. If it decides it just can't accommodate what you want in the time you want it, it will just go into metabolic shutdown, you start getting exhausted and sick, and it all just goes downhill from there.

Great post. I'd give you reps if I could.

[fishmeat]

She put my ass in its place.. I give her reps
I listen to the vets, there's alot to know.

[sassy69]

She put my ass in its place.. I give her reps
I listen to the vets, there's alot to know.

Naw - dont't mean to put anyone's ass anywhere - just want to keep things in context for the ladies.

[world-pharma]

thanks guys...you are great.

[heavyiron]

Halo For Her!!!!


maybe some clen....

[world-pharma]

halotestin for women..wow..she need to explode..

[heavyiron]

halotestin for women..wow..she need to explode..

LOL, no. Halo for Her is an IML product. Its basically a PH that converts to Oral Turinabol.

HALO FOR HER™ - Female Pro-Anabolic Agent

Designed specifically for Female athletes!

-Comparable to Anavar/Oxandrolone
-Helps with Cutting (getting lean)
-Increases Strength & Hardness
-Does Not Aromatize (convert to estrogen)
-Can be used as part of bulking, lean bulking or cutting cycles

[Dj1887]

Thank you sassy

[world-pharma]

great and nice bottle..must to be good product for sure.