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    I personally compete naturally but my buddies in the division like to stick to 500-600mg of Test a week (Enanthate or Prop) and Generally either Var or Winny in low doses. Alot of the physique competitors i know also like T3X or Liothyrionine Sodium as well for increased protein synthesis and increased metabolism.

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    It's very interesting to see such low doses being used. I've noticed that many men's physique competitors use a very high volume training approach to sculpt their bodies. I wonder if the higher volume guys are cycling different to the competitors who use the lower volume approach.
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    I see.many mpds guys.cycles not being that far off from male bb's....even more in some cases....but it would be impossible to say or know what everyone is taking...cause its all over the map...

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    Quote Originally Posted by s2h View Post
    I see.many mpds guys.cycles not being that far off from male bb's....even more in some cases....but it would be impossible to say or know what everyone is taking...cause its all over the map...
    I'm assuming their build is highly influenced by training and diet if they truly take so much gear. But Serge Nubret added substantial mass with his Extreme High Volume Approach... so I agree they probably have vast differences from competitor to competitor.

    It would still be very interesting to see several cycles and compare them.
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    I trained a guy for Mens Physique this summer that placed top 5 in 3 shows ( 2nd in one) in Florida . He went to nats and got 11 th . * I was only responsible for his training and diet He's a good guy , but very stubborn and wanted to continue using what he felt was best regardless of what I felt . He used between 50 and 75 mgs anavar , test 400 , winstrol 50 every other day . Yup ...all in quest of 18 inch arms ... Kinda sad if you think that many bodybuilders can win shows on far far less .

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTTraining View Post
    I trained a guy for Mens Physique this summer that placed top 5 in 3 shows ( 2nd in one) in Florida . He went to nats and got 11 th . * I was only responsible for his training and diet He's a good guy , but very stubborn and wanted to continue using what he felt was best regardless of what I felt . He used between 50 and 75 mgs anavar , test 400 , winstrol 50 every other day . Yup ...all in quest of 18 inch arms ... Kinda sad if you think that many bodybuilders can win shows on far far less .
    Thanks for this. It's actually quite similar to what I was imagining, so it's great to get some insider info on it.
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    No problem , M4b . although that is only one example . I'd hate to think all were similar , but I don't doubt it .

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    Calling myself out on the niave card but I thought for damn sure I caught a break in flipping to MPD this spring as their would not be such a drive or need to use gear since size is not the major outcome. Being a 6'2'' ecto I never had the genes anyway to fill out and do well as a bodybuilder (I tried in 3 natty shows) and yet now it seems there is still a good presence and use of gear in MPD as well although less frequent and not as aggressive as with bodybuilding I imagine.

    Regardless of what is or is not, MPD still offers a guy like me a much better shot at being competitive then bodybuilding ever did (without gear that is).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua H View Post
    Calling myself out on the niave card but I thought for damn sure I caught a break in flipping to MPD this spring as their would not be such a drive or need to use gear since size is not the major outcome. Being a 6'2'' ecto I never had the genes anyway to fill out and do well as a bodybuilder (I tried in 3 natty shows) and yet now it seems there is still a good presence and use of gear in MPD as well although less frequent and not as aggressive as with bodybuilding I imagine.

    Regardless of what is or is not, MPD still offers a guy like me a much better shot at being competitive then bodybuilding ever did (without gear that is).
    MPD would be better if they didn't wear shorts, then it could turn into more of a classic bodybuilding division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Barry View Post
    MPD would be better if they didn't wear shorts, then it could turn into more of a classic bodybuilding division.
    i would love to compete in that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mareck View Post
    i would love to compete in that!
    I agree with Barry. It would be an excellent division. An attractive division to young guys who want to look good and not look like a freak.

    But of course they would have to ditch the board shorts first.
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    I know 4 close friends that just competed in April here in the south.. All were on tren and test.. others on var and mast and 1 on all but he took the test out a few weeks in advance and started letro to really dry out..

    I would bet over 70% these days are on gear for MP.

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    Sorry to bump this thread but there is no point taking gear for MP, plus winning is cool and everything but the real winning in the MP division is off the stage with sponsorships and networking as we have seen so many be succesful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianlauer View Post
    If you use illegal substances to compete...men's physique is not for you. The way i see it MP is about building a great body NATURALLY. If you can't do that then you shouldn't compete or you should take it to another level and hit the stage as a Bodybuilder.
    I know this is an older thread by now but I want to give MAJOR props to Ian! I totally agree with him!

    I think using pharmaceuticals to compete in ANY sport will always taint your success even if the majority of other competitors are using them.

    Ultimately at the end of the day what you've achieved is not your own no matter how many lies one tells themselves.

    I'm a 53 year old fitness professional and have been training for most of my adult life. Even though I'm not the most genetically gifted individual at least at the end of the day I know that anything I've achieved is my own and can't be taken away from me.

    I've watched professional Bodybuilding destroy itself year after year and now I can't believe anyone can take it seriously!

    I was excited when Men's Physique appeared on the scene because finally it looked like 'Physical Culture' was making a comeback, and in fact it is with certain competitors (such as Ian and a few others).

    My concern now is that I hope the judges for Men's Physique will 'keep a lid' on the physiques they deem are fit to win or else they will have the same problem all over again!

    I think it is outstanding that Ian and others like him are willing to stick to their guns and do the right thing in spite of the fact that they aren't in a 'fair fight' w/ the other guys using PEDs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMW_Fitness View Post
    Sorry to bump this thread but there is no point taking gear for MP, plus winning is cool and everything but the real winning in the MP division is off the stage with sponsorships and networking as we have seen so many be succesful.
    Well said!

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