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    Muscles and Brains in a single package!

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    CONGRATS TOP DOG!! NEVER A DOUBT!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by data4 View Post
    Do you ever do it with DBs that way? Doing that and keeping your hands supinated is killer!


    I hope to be able to post an update here soon and some pics asap. I have been extra busy this week finishing up some things for school. I should officially have my bachelors degree very soon My last assignment was completed tonight!
    Yes, that is my preferred method of doing them. Congrats on the degree!

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    Quote Originally Posted by data4 View Post
    Thank you gentleman! It was certainly tough taking a full course load, working fulltime and bodybuilding. It sure has built some work ethic and time management skills!



    It depends on the day. Some days I eat fish a couple times per day and that is enough. I typically choose fattier fish like sardines, salmon etc. If I am not getting those sources then I do supplement with fish oil. You can get omega 3 from several non fish sources but you really want to focus on DHA and EPA versus ALA like you would get from something like flax. Only so much conversion to from ALA to the others will occur. With that being said I will get some plant sources such as chia seeds, red palm etc.
    Cool beans. I use a extra strength fish oil that has about 1.2 grams epa/dh in a 2:1 ratio in each serving (2 pills). Normally use about 2 or 3 pills a day, but wanna start eating more sockeye. When did/do you use your D limonene nowadays??

    Congrats btw!
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    Quote Originally Posted by data4 View Post
    Another fantastic week of training. Still have one more day, hitting legs this afternoon. My weight was up to about 201.8 again then started to drop so I made an increase. My current macros are

    275p/450c/110f training
    275p/165c/135f non training

    Nothing fancy right now. I am hammering away daily and need to keep pushing the gains.

    Getting in a massive amount of easily digesting carbs isn't that bad with the right sources, but did it take you a bit to get used to 40-50+ grams of fat in each of those first two meals?

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    And have you noticed through experience /work with clients if you haven't eaten a certain food for a while, in my case eggs and beef, can there be a brief period when you re introduce it where your digestive system will have to get used to that food again, but will normalize over a short amount of time as long as you eat it several times a week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by data4 View Post
    Do you ever do it with DBs that way? Doing that and keeping your hands supinated is killer!


    I hope to be able to post an update here soon and some pics asap. I have been extra busy this week finishing up some things for school. I should officially have my bachelors degree very soon My last assignment was completed tonight!

    I actually got a cheap bicep blaster recently and have been using it a lot. It really mimics the flat preacher bench kev talks about but with pretty much any barbell or dumbell you use. I'm really digging it. You look a bit like a tool though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac View Post
    Muscles and Brains in a single package!

    Congrats Data.
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    Yes, that is my preferred method of doing them. Congrats on the degree!
    Thank you all! Still have to wait on my paper copy but it will be here at some point At this point I dont think there will be anymore school right away as I am simply tapped out and maxed out schedule wise. However, that is not to say I may not at some point. I certainly havent ruled it out.
    Quote Originally Posted by SideShowDoc View Post
    Cool beans. I use a extra strength fish oil that has about 1.2 grams epa/dh in a 2:1 ratio in each serving (2 pills). Normally use about 2 or 3 pills a day, but wanna start eating more sockeye. When did/do you use your D limonene nowadays??


    Congrats btw!
    Since its said to have a mild calming effect I tend to take it in the evening. When anxiety rears its head that is usually when it happens. Plus my intake is high so I have taken in a good amount of food at that point. I take it then to keep things moving as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by SideShowDoc View Post
    Getting in a massive amount of easily digesting carbs isn't that bad with the right sources, but did it take you a bit to get used to 40-50+ grams of fat in each of those first two meals?
    Nah not at all since I obviously didnt just jump into that. It was slow overtime. If I feel I am getting slowed down I can add in more MCTs as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SideShowDoc View Post
    And have you noticed through experience /work with clients if you haven't eaten a certain food for a while, in my case eggs and beef, can there be a brief period when you re introduce it where your digestive system will have to get used to that food again, but will normalize over a short amount of time as long as you eat it several times a week?
    Ya but I think that is pretty common with alot of folks. That is why I tend to keep foods very constant later in prep to make sure I am not going to throw things off. that is also another reason I like to have folks (outside of maybe the last 4 weeks of prep) vary food sources. There are many reasons to do it but this is one of them. Keeps from forming food sensitivities overtime and also gives you a nice variety of naturally occurring enzymes.

    Quote Originally Posted by SideShowDoc View Post
    I actually got a cheap bicep blaster recently and have been using it a lot. It really mimics the flat preacher bench kev talks about but with pretty much any barbell or dumbell you use. I'm really digging it. You look a bit like a tool though
    I actually have one in my parents basement lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by data4 View Post
    Thank you all! Still have to wait on my paper copy but it will be here at some point At this point I dont think there will be anymore school right away as I am simply tapped out and maxed out schedule wise. However, that is not to say I may not at some point. I certainly havent ruled it out.


    Since its said to have a mild calming effect I tend to take it in the evening. When anxiety rears its head that is usually when it happens. Plus my intake is high so I have taken in a good amount of food at that point. I take it then to keep things moving as well.


    Nah not at all since I obviously didnt just jump into that. It was slow overtime. If I feel I am getting slowed down I can add in more MCTs as well.
    Lol, d limonene, the new coffee (sends me to the porcelain throne as well )

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    How was your travels to Detroit?
    How do you pack food when you travel? Pretty consistent with what you pack? Any staple meals or sources you like to take?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SideShowDoc View Post
    Lol, d limonene, the new coffee (sends me to the porcelain throne as well )
    When I dose it a little higher it will be me too lol

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    How was your travels to Detroit?
    How do you pack food when you travel? Pretty consistent with what you pack? Any staple meals or sources you like to take?
    Travel was good on the way up but the show started very late. Once it got rolling everything was smooth. I didnt actually have a client in it. We just went up to watch a client of a fellow coach and check out the show since I competed in it back in 2010. Coming back was a nightmare. There was so much construction it took nearly 6 hours to make a 3hr and 15 minute trip. It was horrible!

    When I travel, I definitely keep it pretty simple. I like to pack all my supplements in tiny pill baggies. I then keep all the meals to 3-4 ingredient. One for each, protein, carbs and fats. I might bring a few condiments but other than that its simple. If its more than a couple of days I will usually pack food and weigh it there instead of pre preparing so many meals.



    I wanted to drop in with an update! I was sitting at 210.4 this morning and have crept up a couple of lbs lately. Training is sitting at 5 days per week pretty much every week now. I may even throw in a 6th day at times. I seem to have enough in the tank to recover so I am rolling with it. I more so have to keep an eye on my joints and how I feel overall outside of muscle recovery.

    My split has been as follows the past couple of weeks.

    Chest, Shoulders
    Back, Hamstrings
    Arms
    Chest, Shoulders
    Legs
    Back, Arms

    I am still running a three way macro split as well. I use training day macs five days per week, a separate set for arm only days and an off day macro set up.

    275P/500C/130F Training
    275P/400C/130F Arms only
    275P/200C/150F Off Day.

    I have cut out the one HIIT session weekly and replaced it with push mowing my yard once per week which is more than enough lol Plus training volume and intensity over a weeks span is pretty darn high.

    Overall pushing hard and progressing slow but surely I will get some pics up pretty soon once I hit around 212ish. My condition is night and day better at 210.4 than what it was starting my prep last year at 203. Not even close. Evening weight is usually around 218-220.

    Hope everyone is well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by data4 View Post
    When I dose it a little higher it will be me too lol



    Travel was good on the way up but the show started very late. Once it got rolling everything was smooth. I didnt actually have a client in it. We just went up to watch a client of a fellow coach and check out the show since I competed in it back in 2010. Coming back was a nightmare. There was so much construction it took nearly 6 hours to make a 3hr and 15 minute trip. It was horrible!

    When I travel, I definitely keep it pretty simple. I like to pack all my supplements in tiny pill baggies. I then keep all the meals to 3-4 ingredient. One for each, protein, carbs and fats. I might bring a few condiments but other than that its simple. If its more than a couple of days I will usually pack food and weigh it there instead of pre preparing so many meals.



    I wanted to drop in with an update! I was sitting at 210.4 this morning and have crept up a couple of lbs lately. Training is sitting at 5 days per week pretty much every week now. I may even throw in a 6th day at times. I seem to have enough in the tank to recover so I am rolling with it. I more so have to keep an eye on my joints and how I feel overall outside of muscle recovery.

    My split has been as follows the past couple of weeks.

    Chest, Shoulders
    Back, Hamstrings
    Arms
    Chest, Shoulders
    Legs
    Back, Arms

    I am still running a three way macro split as well. I use training day macs five days per week, a separate set for arm only days and an off day macro set up.

    275P/500C/130F Training
    275P/400C/130F Arms only
    275P/200C/150F Off Day.

    I have cut out the one HIIT session weekly and replaced it with push mowing my yard once per week which is more than enough lol Plus training volume and intensity over a weeks span is pretty darn high.

    Overall pushing hard and progressing slow but surely I will get some pics up pretty soon once I hit around 212ish. My condition is night and day better at 210.4 than what it was starting my prep last year at 203. Not even close. Evening weight is usually around 218-220.

    Hope everyone is well!
    sounds like you are really packing on the muscle. your posts are kickass too Austin very informative on fb and here. keep it up

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    austin i may have missed it elsewhere but what is your degree going to be in?

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