Fem Chem - Side Effects

[John Romano]

wow thats crazy john. What did you have her doing diet and training/cardio wise? just curious cuz she looked great.

The first thing I did was put a pad lock on the refrigerator. Dead serious. Next, I mapped out a 21 week diet and training plan. I totally controlled everything she ate - I made every morsel that passed between her lips. I trained her, did cardio with her, ate with her, everything. By doing so I was able to monitor her changes and make adjustments along the way. I learned so much about how women respond to food and exercise this way. I know I'm going against the grain when I say it, But I really believe that of all the drugs available today, the one that has the deepest most profound effect is food. And, the most powerful utilization of that drug is exercise and rest.

I believe that a better "female" bodybuilder can be made without male hormones. That's not to say that drugs wont be used, just not those that don't belong in you.

[~gymdiva~]

would you ever train a female competitor now?

[John Romano]

would you ever train a female competitor now?

I don't know. I guess it depends. I don't know if I have that kind f time to devote to contest prep these days. I have been thinking a lot about it lately. I probably would.

[mshrdbdy]

What was the stuff that messed your voice up? Winstrol?

No, I was instructed to take 1cc of Deca a week, after 2 or 3 shots I stopped

[Sistersteel]

No, I was instructed to take 1cc of Deca a week, after 2 or 3 shots I stopped

Jesus Christ...that's at least 250mg of Deca a week judging by the standards set by underground labs.


And who is this revered person who "instructed" you to do that to yourself..please do tell!

[John Romano]

Jesus Christ...that's at least 250mg of Deca a week judging by the standards set by underground labs.


And who is this revered person who "instructed" you to do that to yourself..please do tell!

Deca can also be had in 50 mg/ml

[Sistersteel]

Deca can also be had in 50 mg/ml

I have never seen an underground lab make a 50mg/ml Deca. The only lower doses I've seen are usually pharm grade and those are very hard to come by. The most popular pharm grade Deca I can think of actually would be Norma and even that comes in 200mg/2ml. Watson makes a 200mg/ml and that is pharm grade as well.

So with the exception of Organon that comes in either a 50 or 100mg/ml, I have never seen a 50mg/ml Deca anywhere else. Off the top of my head, here are some of the more popular companies I can think of:

QV is 200mg/ml
Stallion 300mg/ml
Tornel 200mg/ml
brovel 200mg/ml
sig pharm 200mg/ml
steris 200mg/ml
Astrovet 300mg/ml
Nutrivet 300mg/ml
powerline 300mg/ml
norandren 200mg/ml
animla power 300mg/ml
Denkall 200mg/ml
Ttokkyo 300mg/ml
QV deca 200 and 300mg/ml
IP 200mg/ml
Genesis 250mg/ml
Eurovet 300mg/ml
BD Decabol is 250mg/ml

All underground labs and vet labs make Deca in 200mg/ml or more. Chances of her running a pharm grade Deca are slim considering the cost and availability...that and she doesn't have a clue what the hell it was she stuck herself with in the first place. All she said was "I was instructed to use 1cc"...The fact that her voice dropped in two weeks and has not recovered months later is a pretty good indication that it wasn't 50mg/ml of anything.

Respect,

SS

[mshrdbdy]

Jesus Christ...that's at least 250mg of Deca a week judging by the standards set by underground labs.


And who is this revered person who "instructed" you to do that to yourself..please do tell!

He's pretty well known and I'd rather not smear his name...

But u are correct, it was an underground lab. I ended up just givin the stuff to my boyfriend. I came off everything for a cpl months and eveb did a cpl diff cleanses.. I just started running Anavar again, will that have any further affect on my voice? It never gave me problems in the past..

[John Romano]

I have never seen an underground lab make a 50mg/ml Deca. The only lower doses I've seen are usually pharm grade and those are very hard to come by. The most popular pharm grade Deca I can think of actually would be Norma and even that comes in 200mg/2ml. Watson makes a 200mg/ml and that is pharm grade as well.

So with the exception of Organon that comes in either a 50 or 100mg/ml, I have never seen a 50mg/ml Deca anywhere else. Off the top of my head, here are some of the more popular companies I can think of:

QV is 200mg/ml
Stallion 300mg/ml
Tornel 200mg/ml
brovel 200mg/ml
sig pharm 200mg/ml
steris 200mg/ml
Astrovet 300mg/ml
Nutrivet 300mg/ml
powerline 300mg/ml
norandren 200mg/ml
animla power 300mg/ml
Denkall 200mg/ml
Ttokkyo 300mg/ml
QV deca 200 and 300mg/ml
IP 200mg/ml
Genesis 250mg/ml
Eurovet 300mg/ml
BD Decabol is 250mg/ml

All underground labs and vet labs make Deca in 200mg/ml or more. Chances of her running a pharm grade Deca are slim considering the cost and availability...that and she doesn't have a clue what the hell it was she stuck herself with in the first place. All she said was "I was instructed to use 1cc"...The fact that her voice dropped in two weeks and has not recovered months later is a pretty good indication that it wasn't 50mg/ml of anything.

Respect,

SS

You're right. I missed the "underground lab" part. Remember, I lived in Mexico for 5 years. 50mg was pretty much all we could get form the farmacia. 100 mg occasionally. Come to think if it, the vet deca did come in potencies as high as 200 mg. So, I stand corrected. And, really, no one should be poking themselves unless they know exactly what's in the pin.

On a side note, SS, I find it interesting that your fave is TA. Generally speaking, we regard that stuff right up there with hardest of the hardcore items. Would you be willing to discuss how you came to rank TA number one? I find these discoveries very interesting.

[Sistersteel]

He's pretty well known and I'd rather not smear his name...

But u are correct, it was an underground lab. I ended up just givin the stuff to my boyfriend. I came off everything for a cpl months and eveb did a cpl diff cleanses.. I just started running Anavar again, will that have any further affect on my voice? It never gave me problems in the past..

I am sorry that happened to you sweetie. Think on the bright side, a little raspiness can be very sexy.

I've never known var to cause a voice drop or even aggravate any preexisting raspiness. Just stick to a conservative dose of 10mg a day, 5mg in the a.m and 5mg in the p.m.

If I may suggest the following. Deca Drabolin usually stays in the system for a very long time. Its still detectable almost 18 months later.
I would advise you to stick to short esters form now on, so that worst case scenario you bump into this problem again, the drug clears your system quicker once you drop it and side effects do not linger.

I would also recommend you keep Aldactone on hand at all times. Aldactone is a diuretic with anti androgenic properties. It will help expedite the cleaning process and make side effects far more tolerable.

SS

[Sistersteel]

You're right. I missed the "underground lab" part. Remember, I lived in Mexico for 5 years. 50mg was pretty much all we could get form the farmacia. 100 mg occasionally. Come to think if it, the vet deca did come in potencies as high as 200 mg. So, I stand corrected. And, really, no one should be poking themselves unless they know exactly what's in the pin.

On a side note, SS, I find it interesting that your fave is TA. Generally speaking, we regard that stuff right up there with hardest of the hardcore items. Would you be willing to discuss how you came to rank TA number one? I find these discoveries very interesting.

Certainly, John. Would you like me to PM you about it, start a new thread or pursue this discussion with my response?

[John Romano]

Certainly, John. Would you like me to PM you about it, start a new thread or pursue this discussion with my response?

As you wish... I don't know how sensitive the matter is for you. I'd be grateful for any means with which you feel most comfortable.

[Sistersteel]

As you wish... I don't know how sensitive the matter is for you. I'd be grateful for any means with which you feel most comfortable.

Then I will PM you.

[mshrdbdy]

I am sorry that happened to you sweetie. Think on the bright side, a little raspiness can be very sexy.

I've never known var to cause a voice drop or even aggravate any preexisting raspiness. Just stick to a conservative dose of 10mg a day, 5mg in the a.m and 5mg in the p.m.Cool. That's what I've been doing

If I may suggest the following. Deca Drabolin usually stays in the system for a very long time. Its still detectable almost 18 months later.
I would advise you to stick to short esters form now on, so that worst case scenario you bump into this problem again, the drug clears your system quicker once you drop it and side effects do not linger. Thank u but I think the only AAS I will ever run again is Anavar, I know it works well for me. Since I do Figure I don't feel the need for anything more than that.

I would also recommend you keep Aldactone on hand at all times. Aldactone is a diuretic with anti androgenic properties. It will help expedite the cleaning process and make side effects far more tolerable. I will definately do some more research on this, sounds like a really good idea

SS

I really appreciate ur advice, thank u

[LookImDancinCrazy!]

On a side note, SS, I find it interesting that your fave is TA.

I'm assuming that's trenbolone acetate? That's what I'm using now. Aside from heinous insomnia the first two nights, I haven't noticed any unpleasant side effects at all. I think my hair is shedding a bit more than normal, but it's nothing frightful. Hard, strong, horny, and big. All good.