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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolyn Bryant View Post
    "One cycle leads to two, leads to three, and so on. "

    Shut yo mouth, gurl.....This is precisely what I'm talking about. And leads to higer doses. Don't let JR hear you say that or we might have yet another argument/discussion going. Steroids became a controlled substance much in part due to their level of addiction and the havoc they might wreak on the body with abuse.

    Bodybuilding is addicting. But when done right in the end you build a healthy, superhuman physique on the inside and out. (Yes, even with sensible drug supplementation.) So that when you get older you have a wall of protection whereas you become less susceptable to diseases and aging.

    If you have a dormant health issue, some drugs will certainly make it come out of hiding.
    This would be especially true when it comes to GH use in terms of trigggering dormant health issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh Penman View Post
    This would be especially true when it comes to GH use in terms of trigggering dormant health issues.
    That's what I heard, too. I also heard it does not build muscles by itself. It lengthens bones. It only revitalizes muscle cells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolyn Bryant View Post
    That's what I heard, too. I also heard it does not build muscles by itself. It lengthens bones. It only revitalizes muscle cells.

    It will lengthen bones if the epiphyseal plates haven't sealed yet, so in teens and children.

    In adults, it will thicken bones, so that is why some people get the big skulls, elbow, hand and feet growth.

    Most studies on athletes don't really demonstrate that significant amount of muscle growth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolyn Bryant View Post
    Sure. If you promise not to leave out the part that it came from a doctor and not Carolyn. From my experience I don't wish estro dominance on anyone. Here is what Dr. Hotze (google his website in Houston) talks about at his Wellness Center in so many words. Estro dominance has been linked to many of our problems. Estro binds to the thyroid receptor and blocks T3 from being utilized in the body. Estro overworks the adrenals. It can lead to fatique, depression, sleeping disorders, weight gain, irritability, low tolerence to stress and more. Endocrinologists can't just treat patients with blood work. Everyone is different.

    The naturalist/holistic medicine doctor has a power point that I can't explain at the moment but it deals with the pregnenolone steal. It is an illustration of chronic stress response. and how hormones don't work if the cortisol is not received properly. Deciphering this chart might be right up your alley.

    So is menorrhagia the main symptom of oestrogen dominance?

    I just listened to the off topic radio interview you did, and I think you are talking about the rebound women get?
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    I don't know if I would call it the main symptom. As I explained earlier complications of endometriosis is my main problem. Fibroids is also a symptom. Insanity is, too. I think it's called hysteria, thus we got hysterectomies. I just looked it up:

    "psychological state of neurosis resulting from failure to face reality"

    I think we have alot of that in the bodybuilding community. Can we discuss that?

    We can safely say that most disturbances in the repoductive system have something to do with estro. Either too much or too little. Some of us are born with our hormones completely out of whack.

    I think the main problem with some women using/abusing AAS, mainly test and its derivatives, is not knowing how much free estro is floating around. They can test for that but who goes to the doctor prior to doing a cycle of sustanon or deca, eq, winny, anavar and nolvedex and requests lab work? Even then, you have to be very specific about what to look for.

    Supressing estrogen is very tricky, especially over long periods, that being a year or two. Depends on the woman and her age. Doing it with test is a disaster waiting to happen. Even using more estro and progesto causes problems. I put my money on a balance of the three.

    I'm still looking for the abstracts and manuals that discuss healthy drug cycles for women. Can't find my copy of Dan Duchaine's book, darnit. The recipe book for bigger, harder muscles.

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