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    Quote Originally Posted by axioma View Post
    Leigh, question on hcg: how does it relate to fat loss? I write a fitness column for the local paper and I am really sick and tired of bariatric clinics advertising this stuff. Correct me if I am wrong, but there are two related studies: 1958 in conjunction with a 500 calorie a day diet. Result: could have just been the diet and 1972 study that the difference between the control group and placebo was .02. NOT SIGNIFCANT! What is your take?
    HCG seems to have fallen into the category of the latest 'fat loss weapon' by a media always searching for the magic bullet.
    Calorie restriction is usually involved and probably more responsible for any weight loss.......

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    thanks...something to think about...5000iu's of hcg is $8-$10 bucks, tops. The clinics sell the shots $40-$50 for 50iu x 1 weekly! Holy cow. How can a non-m.d. get on that action?

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    leigh,
    ... the wife has been on for 5 mgs var twice daily for 12 wks now and has put on good visible muscle gains. she is thick and strong. she is gonna come off and do a lil cardio and drop the water to see what we have. we were thinking 6 wks off and then running another 12.
    is this typical? or should we shorten the off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by axioma View Post
    thanks...something to think about...5000iu's of hcg is $8-$10 bucks, tops. The clinics sell the shots $40-$50 for 50iu x 1 weekly! Holy cow. How can a non-m.d. get on that action?
    The B12 shots are even more and they do those in spas. it costs $7 for 10 ml and they shoot em for $70 per ml

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh Penman View Post
    HCG seems to have fallen into the category of the latest 'fat loss weapon' by a media always searching for the magic bullet.
    Calorie restriction is usually involved and probably more responsible for any weight loss.......
    Extreme calorie restriction in these diets...
    "The only way you can hurt the body is not use it. Inactivity is the killer and, remember, it's never too late."
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossbellas View Post
    leigh,
    ... the wife has been on for 5 mgs var twice daily for 12 wks now and has put on good visible muscle gains. she is thick and strong. she is gonna come off and do a lil cardio and drop the water to see what we have. we were thinking 6 wks off and then running another 12.
    is this typical? or should we shorten the off?
    The recommendation is to take the same amount of time OFF the drug as was spent ON....which in this instance would be 12 weeks. However, as we all know, recommendations do not always get integrated into 'real life' situations. So, given that, I would say she should take at least six weeks off but preferably eight. This will allow the drug to be just as effective the second time around as the body has not become used to it......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh Penman View Post
    The recommendation is to take the same amount of time OFF the drug as was spent ON....which in this instance would be 12 weeks. However, as we all know, recommendations do not always get integrated into 'real life' situations. So, given that, I would say she should take at least six weeks off but preferably eight. This will allow the drug to be just as effective the second time around as the body has not become used to it......
    Thank you for the help. we were planning for two months already so we will just bump it up a lil

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