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    Default Please explain Roelly Winklaar!

    I'm hoping some of you guys can explain how Roelly Winklaar seems to be getting worse and worse, but continues to get top placings. A BAD Roelly beats Toney Freeman, JOJ, Ed Nunn, Ronnie Rockel, and more this weekend in Spain. What am I missing?

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    The judges are mesmerized by his arms, that's the only thing I can think of. God knows what the judges are smoking when they are giving him his placings.

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    Ed Nunn has been getting screwed bad. Not the thickest of guys up top, but he has freaky shape and comes in hard as nails.

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    They should be awarding Ed Nunn for his conditioning yet Roelly is get awarded for a lack of conditioning. I was a big fan of his when he first came out. However, my biggest complaint was he does not know how to pose especially the mandatories. Chris Aceto said it best, he does not have a formula. Hence, why his condition is on and off

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    Like i posted in the play by play........Santa-ifbb-Claus likes to give out Christmas gifts early this year (Roelly & Branch)
    Sadly, Santa's elves posted Toney's and it got lost in transit somewhere between the Olympia and spain.
    But you never know...Here in England we all love Tony and Rudolph the Reindeer might just turn up with it?

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    What am I missing? Haha you know good and well what it is Singerman. Good and well.

    and here I was thinking Bob Arum is the most corrupt person in sport... How wrong I was.
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    They didnt want the americans to e the only ones in the top 5 so they pulled out Toney and nunn and added Rolley because he was the only decent european besides Robert P. They show is supposed to be international yet al the foreign guys get crushed.

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    But on a serious note i cant understand why some of these bodybuilders place as high as they do, when its pretty obvious that they are "off".
    Being in the sport for over 30 years, you can look at a competition line up and roughly see who is "on" and who isn't.
    Which makes me question the judges knowledge. Just how many of the judges have actually competed? Or even worked out?
    Do they even know whats it like to diet down in to single figures?
    If it was me i would have at least one criteria for the judging panel.......And that is they should have competed/stepped on stage up to National level at least. And to have a minimum of 5 years competitive experience under their belts. (Thats for male and female judges alike).
    Sometimes it seems the judges havent got a clue and dont even compare athletes with similar structures or condition and just pick the the BIG NAMES even when they are clearly "off".

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    Revenge for all the times guys come from over sea to compete in US and doesnt get the right placement no matter how good they look

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    I will say this, he looked a lot better at the night show than pre-judging. That being said, he should have not placed any higher than 6th in my opinion. Robert P was DORIANSHREDDED and Tony was just plain better.... And this isn't splitting hairs by any means, both of these competitors were SUPERIOR in everyway and Roelly placed ahead of them....

    BSN must be gigantic in Spain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieMuscle View Post
    What am I missing? Haha you know good and well what it is Singerman. Good and well.

    and here I was thinking Bob Arum is the most corrupt person in sport... How wrong I was.
    Huh? Please explain... I'm lost.

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    You'd be a fool to think Tony placing was not a result of his rant a week earlier.

    As much of an asshole as John Romano is (and he's a big one), he is correct on how corrupt the sport is. Roelly's and Nicole's recent placings are obvious evidence. It's enough that I'm done following it, at least for a while. There's no enjoyment watching something when you have no idea what's going on.

    Lets face it, the IFBB is only slightly more credible than the WWE. Sounds ridiculous but think about it.

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    Simple , grandma the night before the shows has a wild sex party and does all the judges. Gangbang style. And then for the judges that Need extra convincing, roelly comes out in his "gimp" outfit and plays and does the rest. Sounds ridiculous but that's the answer. I sat up all night and thought about this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Daniels View Post
    You'd be a fool to think Tony placing was not a result of his rant a week earlier.

    As much of an asshole as John Romano is (and he's a big one), he is correct on how corrupt the sport is. Roelly's and Nicole's recent placings are obvious evidence. It's enough that I'm done following it, at least for a while. There's no enjoyment watching something when you have no idea what's going on.

    Lets face it, the IFBB is only slightly more credible than the WWE. Sounds ridiculous but think about it.
    Wrong. Wwe is very credible. Makes a million times the money ifbb does.

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    Not a problem for me, b/c what I'm looking for in a bodybuilder is often not what gets the top placings at the show. Judging is subjective, & it can be biased. I'm sure I'm not the only person who heard that word came down from on high that a certain competitor was never to be put into the top five, thus ending that person's NPC (& less often IFBB) reign. Beyond that, much competitive judging is deciding between apples & oranges, with competitors bringing different strengths to the stage & deciding which strengths would be rewarded on a particular day (in some cases, in a particular hour, since conditioning can shift so quickly).

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