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    Quote Originally Posted by DAVIDHARDY View Post
    I make koolaid with liquid sweetner or stevia and put it in ice trays. Freeze it and make popsicles.
    I used syntrax nectar protein to do the same thing

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    Wow, gonna try that.

    Cheers bro

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    Just realized something i have been using for 3 weeks has fucking Sorbitol..

    Not allowed on keto hey?

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    Keto refeed:
    Looking for advice on refeed meal! Not interested in feeling like crap or falling off the wagon after crap loading (have read lots of your horror stories out there). Bf got choc chip eggos for his but that doesn't sound appealing to me at all. Im actually afraid to refeed but I know it's what ur supposed to do. (4 weeks out from first national competition)

    Thinking 50g of carbs made of pasta/marinara sauce. Is this a good refeed? and if yes, white or wheat pasta?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAVIDHARDY View Post
    I make koolaid with liquid sweetner or stevia and put it in ice trays. Freeze it and make popsicles.
    Wow im gunna try this!!!..so hungry

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    hey Dave

    I just made a grocery store run..gunna try and really tighten up the diet.

    I bought some pecan halves as u suggested. How many do you have per meal and how many times per day bro? Ive been having 2TBS of Natty PB w/ each meal.

    I also got some cashews..are those good fats instead of natty PB too?

    Thanks a ton

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    how much cardio on keto I hear dave got his clients on 3 hours a day

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    I think Dave recommends you stop at 2 hours a day, not sure thought better ask him

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    What do you guys reckon about the Waldon Farms sauces on keto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamalH View Post
    What do you guys reckon about the Waldon Farms sauces on keto?
    I think it has splenda in it, which Dave doesn't recommend...same reason I don't eat the sugar free jello ...I only use stevia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bona fide View Post
    I think it has splenda in it, which Dave doesn't recommend...same reason I don't eat the sugar free jello ...I only use stevia
    It's not the "splenda" that is the culprit, it's the maltodextrin in the splenda. Sucralose is the sweetener in splenda, but it's the maltodextrin that gives you the calories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAVIDHARDY View Post
    It's not the "splenda" that is the culprit, it's the maltodextrin in the splenda. Sucralose is the sweetener in splenda, but it's the maltodextrin that gives you the calories.
    ahhhh okay i see...cool thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by JocelynL View Post
    Keto refeed:
    Looking for advice on refeed meal! Not interested in feeling like crap or falling off the wagon after crap loading (have read lots of your horror stories out there). Bf got choc chip eggos for his but that doesn't sound appealing to me at all. Im actually afraid to refeed but I know it's what ur supposed to do. (4 weeks out from first national competition)

    Thinking 50g of carbs made of pasta/marinara sauce. Is this a good refeed? and if yes, white or wheat pasta?
    That depends but unless you're 3yrs old, I doubt a 50g refeed will do anything for you.

    Try low fat bagels/muffins 200-400g, one bagel might be 50g carbs, eat one or two with each of the 3-4 meals PWO, simple and effective.

    A stack which really reduces the bloat and negative effects from 1000g for me is:

    300mg ZINC through the refeed (50 X 6)

    500-1000mg R-ALA*

    1,000 IU natural vitamin E

    3g Vitamin C (500 X 6)

    2 tabs Zypan (betaine hcl and some animal compounds (pancreas extract, etc..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by •P®øD¶G¥• View Post
    That depends but unless you're 3yrs old, I doubt a 50g refeed will do anything for you.

    Try low fat bagels/muffins 200-400g, one bagel might be 50g carbs, eat one or two with each of the 3-4 meals PWO, simple and effective.

    A stack which really reduces the bloat and negative effects from 1000g for me is:

    300mg ZINC through the refeed (50 X 6)

    500-1000mg R-ALA*

    1,000 IU natural vitamin E

    3g Vitamin C (500 X 6)

    2 tabs Zypan (betaine hcl and some animal compounds (pancreas extract, etc..)

    Thanks for the info prodigy. I refed with Olive Garden. Split a white noodle pasta with marinara and roasted chicken into 2 meals and had a total of 3 breadsticks between the two.
    I am still trying to lose muscle mass so i wanted to keep my overall carbs/cals low (thats why the initial 50g) but I also wanted the refeed to do its thing...didnt measure carbs last night but i feel like i had enough. Im not feeling like crap but my energy also isnt back and not really sure what was supposed to happen but i dont feel/look tighter or softer...we shall see.

    I am less than 4 weeks out and nervous about muffins, bagels, etc...even regretting the pasta just bc of flour. Thinking next week will be a bowl of fruit and some oatmeal (pretty limited on the excitement factor I know...but those are the two things im craving)

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    From experience, fruit and oatmeal suck for the purposes of a refeed.

    Nothing happened with your refeed because 1-) It might've been too low to accomplish anything 2-) Your cals are too low where a refeed wouldn't offset the negative effects.

    Are you still training?

    Copy your 2 posts and paste them in one or both of these threads:

    http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthrea...t=5748&page=16 (ScoobySnacks)

    http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthrea...t=6224&page=12 (Ken "Skip" Hill)

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