The 2 x Natural Mr Olympia - Kiyoshi Moody Q&A Thread

[Kiyoshi Moody]

Hey Kyoshi, I have the worst time getting rid of water especially around the abs. I damn near hadda swallow a whole bottle of expel to get all of that water out before the 08 Eastern USA'S.

I've tried dandelion root, parsley and expel. What else would u suggest?

Thanks for any advice u can give, it's MUCH appreciated!

Question for you, How much water do you drink prior, meaning weeks leading up too a show?

[Kiyoshi Moody]

Kiyoshi, do you lift heavy all the way up until the day of the show?

Hey Shulk, I wish I could lift heavy all the way up to the show, i try to stay heavy as possible as to retain as much muscle as I can, unfortunately I cant. My carbs are low, become very tired, so it is hard to lift heavy. 100# dumbbells feel like there 200#. But like I said I try to stay heavy as possible with alot of volume.

You gotta remember to leave your ego at the door when preparing for a show. Cause people will look at you and say damn didnt you lift heavier a couple weeks or months ago? Sometimes they have no clue whats going on.

[Mr. Hyde]

What do you think about higher training frequency?

[Kiyoshi Moody]

What do you think about higher training frequency?

Mr Hyde can you elaborate a little more please?

[Shulk]

Kiyoshi, do you train more frequently precontest with less rest days or do you keep your training schedule the same as offseason?

[Mr. Hyde]

I mean hitting every muscle 2x a week. Layne Norton (natural pro) swears by this. I was wondering what you thought about it

[Blakryno]

Question for you, How much water do you drink prior, meaning weeks leading up too a show?

I taper the water down from 32 oz 3 days out 24oz 2 days out and 16 oz up to 12hrs b4 showtime where I stop taking water.

I also believe that maybe dieting from 15weeks out instead of 12 would be a little more beneficial in getting the extra water out. Gonna try that along with anything u may pass along for my next show.

Thanx for the advice.

[Kiyoshi Moody]

Kiyoshi, do you train more frequently precontest with less rest days or do you keep your training schedule the same as offseason?

As I get closer to competiton date I do train more frequently. Something like this,

mon- quads/tris
tues-shoulders/hams
wed-back/bis
thurs-chest/tris
fri-quads/shoulders
sat-back/hams
sun-rest

cardio is done everyday very low intensity.

Abs every other day along with calves

[Kiyoshi Moody]

I mean hitting every muscle 2x a week. Layne Norton (natural pro) swears by this. I was wondering what you thought about it

The only time I will hit a muscle 2x a week would be right before a show. Your body needs time to rest and recuperate especially if your a natural athlete. Myself and Layne have two different opinions on many things.

[Kiyoshi Moody]

I taper the water down from 32 oz 3 days out 24oz 2 days out and 16 oz up to 12hrs b4 showtime where I stop taking water.

I also believe that maybe dieting from 15weeks out instead of 12 would be a little more beneficial in getting the extra water out. Gonna try that along with anything u may pass along for my next show.

Thanx for the advice.

Everyone has different opinions on water intake. ex. Jeff rod, drinks water all the way up to the show that works for him, myself I cut water as I get closed to a show. But the days leading up to a show I'm pounding water. The key to water manipulation is to have all key factors involved and have it planned out right, ur carbs, sodium and water.

Here is my 7 to 10 day precontest

Here you go my 7 to 10 day precontest prep.

Some people want to know how I get dry, tight, and look full the last 7 to 10 days.

Assuming competition is on Saturday
Day 10,9,8 - Protein intake is 400grams consisting of chicken and fish in the PM and eggwhites in the AM. Carb's are around 200 grams. Do I completly cut my carbs as I get closer to the show? Never cut the carbs, it slows down the fat burning process. Also some people card deplete so much to where they can't put enough carbs in there system in time for the show so there muscle bellies won't look full. Carbs consists of oatmeal and brown rice in the early am and before noon sweet potato. No carbs after noon. Except Asparagus to drop the subcutaneuos water
Training is 30 to 45 minutes. Rep range is anywhere from 25 to 50 per set. Alot of tri and quad sets. Meaning 3 to 4 exercises right after another. I am trying to burn up the most glycogen I can. As I start my carb depletion.
Cardio is no longer done.
Posing is 30 minutes in the AM, 30 minutes in the PM and in between every set.
Water consumption is 1 gallon for the day
Tanning is done twice per day for 20 minutes. This also helps drop the subcutaneous water.
Day 7 - Protein intake is at 450 grams consisting of only egg whites (lana's egg whites) in the Am and Fish in the PM (talipia or orange roughy). Carbs are at 150, consisting of oatmeal and sweet potato and asparagus again only. The reason I still use oatmeal because the amount of protein consumed it keeps me regular.
Training is still 30 to 45 minutes. Rep range is now anywhere from 50 to 75 per set. The same alot of tri and quad set sets
Sodium load - salt everything I eat.
No cardio
Posing is still 30 minutes both am,pm.
Water consumption is up to 1 gallon and half
Tanning is still the same twice per day
Day 6 - Protein intake remains the same. Carbs remain the same. Posing remains the same.
Water is now 2 gallons for the day. Tanning is the same. Training is the same
Sodium load - salt everything I eat
Day 4 and 5 - Protein intake remains the same. Carbs are now 100 grams. Oatmeal and sweet potato in the AM, no carbs after noon.
Training remains the same. Posing remains the same. Tanning remains the same. Water consumption is 1/2 gallon, as i began the faze to drop my water.
2 coats of protan on days 4 and 5, am and pm
Sodium load - salt everything I eat.
Day 3 - The fun part begins. Carbing up. Protein intake drops to 200 grams and carb intake goes up to 500 grams starting at 5am til 2 pm after 2 pm no complex carbs just asparagus to keep dropping subcutaneous water. Carbs consists of very dry oatmeal. Sweet potato. Japanese white rice.
No training on these days. Just posing this remains the same.
Water consumption is 16oz for the entire day.
Tanning is once per day to still keep dropping the subcutaneous water.
Protan is twice per day in the am and pm.
Day 2 - Protein intake is 200 grams and carb intake goes up to 700 to 900 grams mainly of very dry oatmeal and japanese white rice dry. no more asparagus. Carbs are consumed slowly all day long.
No training, No water, No tanning, Posing remains the same. Relax.
Protan - 2 more coats in the am and pm
Day of show - up at 4am - start carbing up again dry pancakes with no syrup and dry oatmeal only jelly used on oatmeal and pancakes. no need for protein. after breakfast carb up with sweet potato.
6oz of water is consumed with nanox9 brings out the pump and vascularity 1 hour before stepping on stage.
1st coat of Jan Tana in the early Am. Then 30 minutes before i go on another coat of jan tana and a light oil sheen.
And thats all she wrote


Mind you this year it will change, I will be trying working with either dave or hany, not sure yet but most likely dave

[BigCanuck]

Just wanted to take the time to Thank You for the great posts Kiyoshi.I hope this year is a great one for you.

[thepump]

keep up the great work

[Blakryno]

That was incredibly helpful. No wonder u always come in looking super right and tight. Very my much appreciated champ!

[Kiyoshi Moody]

Just wanted to take the time to Thank You for the great posts Kiyoshi.I hope this year is a great one for you.

Thank you very much, Anything you have to ask you you can come up with let me know. Thank you for taking the time to stop by. Very much appreciated!!!!

[Kiyoshi Moody]

keep up the great work

Thank you very much. Keep training hard!!!!