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heavyiron
01-04-2010, 04:50 PM
Finaplix

(trenbolone acetate)

The drug trenbolone acetate is, without a doubt, the most powerful injectable anabolic steroid used by Steriod.com members to gain muscle. However the full properties of the drug are not always fully understood. This profile will separate fact from fiction and help steroid.com members decide if trenbolone is right for them.

Trenbolone is similar to the highly popular steroid nandrolone, in that they are both 19-nor steroids, meaning that a testosterone molecule has been altered at the 19th position to give us a new compound. Unlike nandrolone however trenbolone is an excellent mass and hardening drug with the majority of gains being muscle fiber, with minimal water retention (1) It has an unbelievable anabolic (muscle building) score of 500. When you compare that to testosterone, which itself is a powerful mass builder, and has an anabolic score of 100 you can begin to fathom the muscle building potential of trenbolone. What makes trenbolone so anabolic? Numerous factors come into play. Trenbolone greatly increases the level of the extremely anabolic hormone IGF-1 within muscle tissue (2). And, it´s worth noting that not only does it increase the levels of IGF-1 in muscle over two fold, it also causes muscle satellite cells (cells that repair damaged muscle) to be more sensitive to IGF-1 and other growth factors(3). The amount of DNA per muscle cell may also be significantly increased (3).

Trenbolone also has a very strong binding affinity to the androgen receptor (A.R), binding much more strongly than testosterone (4). This is important, because the stronger a steroid binds to the androgen receptor the better that steroid works at activating A.R dependant mechanisms of muscle growth. There is also strong supporting evidence that compounds which bind very tightly to the androgen receptor also aid in fat loss. Think as the receptors as locks and androgens as different keys, with some keys (androgens) opening (binding) the locks (receptors) much better than others. This is not to say that AR-binding is the final word on a steroid´s effectiveness. Anadrol doesn´t have any measurable binding to the AR& and we all know how potent Anadrol is for mass-building.

Trenbolone increases nitrogen retention in muscle tissue (5). This is of note because nitrogen retention is a strong indicator of how anabolic a substance is. However, trenbolone´s incredible mass building effects do not end there. Trenbolone has the ability to bind with the receptors of the anti-anabolic (muscle destroying) glucocorticoid hormones (6). This may also has the effect of inhibiting the catabolic (muscle destroying) hormone cortisol (7).

Yet another amazing trait of trenbolone that must be noted is its ability to improve feed efficiency and mineral absorption in animals given the drug (8). To help you understand what this means for you, feed efficiency is a measurement of how much of an animals diet is converted into meat, and the more food it takes to produce this meat, the lower the efficiency. Conversely, the less food it takes to produce meat the, higher the efficiency& well you get the idea. Animals given trenbolone gained high quality weight without having their diet adjusted, thus improving feed efficiency. Finding new compounds which can improve feed efficiency is a billion dollar industry, and has spawned many nutritional advances in the bodybuilding world over the last few decades (CLA, Whey Protein, and HMB are compounds which spring to mind as having first been introduced by the livestock industry). What does this translate to for the hard training athlete? The food you eat will be better utilized for building lean muscle, and vitamins and minerals are also better absorbed which may keep you healthier during cycle.

Trenbolone is also a highly androgenic hormone, when compared with testosterone, which has an androgenic ratio of 100; trenbolone´s androgenic ratio is an astonishing 500. Highly androgenic steroids are appreciated for the effects they have on strength as well as changing the estrogen/androgen ratio, thus reducing water and under the skin. As if the report on trenbolone was not good enough, it gets better; Trenbolone is extraordinarily good as a fat loss agent. One reason for this is its powerful effect on nutrient partitioning (9). It is a little known fact is that androgen receptors are found in fat cells as well as muscle cells(10), androgens act directly on the A.R in fat cells to affect fat burning.(11) the stronger the androgen binds to the A.R, the higher the lipolytic (fat burning) effect on adipose tissue (fat)(11). Since some steroids even increase the numbers of A.R in muscle and fat (11, 12) this fat loss effect would be amplified with the concurrent use of other compounds, such as testosterone.

Trenbolone promotes red blood cell production and increases the rate of glycogen replenishment, significantly improving recovery (13). Like almost all steroids, trenbolones effects are dose dependant with higher dosages having the greatest effects on body composition and strength. Mental changes are a notorious side effect of trenbolone use(15), androgens increase chemicals in the brain that promote aggressive behavior(16), which can be beneficial for some athletes wanting to improve speed and power.

Trenbolones chemical structure makes it resistant to the aromatize enzyme (conversion to estrogen) thus absolutely no percentage of trenbolone will convert to estrogen. Trenbolone administration would not promote estrogenic side effects such as breast tissue growth in men (gynecomastia, bitch tits) accelerated fat gain, decline in fat break down and water retention trenbolone. Trenbolone is also resistant to the 5- alpha-reductase enzyme, this enzyme reduces some steroid hormones into a more androgenic form, in trenbolones case however this does not matter, trenbolone boasts an androgenic ratio of 500, it can easily cause adverse androgenic side effects in any steroid.com members who are prone cases of hair loss, prostate enlargement, oily skin and acne have been reported. Unfortunately trenbolones potential negative side effects do not end there. Trenbolone is also a noted progestin: it binds to the receptor of the female sex hormone progesterone (with about 60% of the actual strength progesterone) (17). In sensitive steroid.com members this can lead to bloat and breast growth worse still, trenbolones active metabolite17beta-trenbolone has a binding affinity to the progesterone receptor (PgR) that is actually greater than progesterone itself (18). No need to panic though, the anti-estrogens letrzole or fulvestrant can lower progesterone levels, and combat any progestenic sides. The use of a 19-nor compound like trenbolone also increases prolactin. bromocriptine or cabergoline are often recommended to lower prolatin levels (20). Testicular atrophy (shrunken balls) may also occur; HCG used intermittently throughout a cycle can prevent this. (21) It is also wise for Tren users to closely monitor their cholesterol levels, as well as kidney function and liver enzymes, as Tren has the potential to negatively affect all of those functions. Trenbolone, being a powerful progestin, will also shut down natural testosterone production which even a relatively small dose and keep the testosterone level suppressed for an extended period of time, this can lower libido and cause erectile dysfunction (fina dick). It is essential that you always stack trenbolone with testosterone.
The acetate ester is a very short-chain ester attached to the trenbolone molecule. It has an active life of 2-3 days but to keep blood levels of trenbolone elevated and steady, daily injections are often recommended.

The acetate ester provides a rapid and high concentration of the hormone which is beneficial to those seeking quick gains, coupled with a rapid clearing time the acetate ester can be discontinued on the onset of adverse side effects.

Now that the properties of trenbolone acetate have been explained we can better understand how to use it in order to maximize its advantages. Evidence suggests that trenbolone when stacked with estrogen promotes more weight gain that trenbolone alone(22), now I´m not telling you to go pop some birth control with your trenbolone but the addition of aromatizing orals such as dianabol and a long estered testosterone such as cypionate or enanthate would produce great gains in a bulking cycle. For a cutting cycle trenbolone is the best choice you have; trenbolones powerful effect on nutrient shuttling allows a user to restrict calories and remain in a state of positive nitrogen balance (remember what that means?). The cortisol reducing effect and binding to the glucocorticoid receptor will greatly reduce the catabolic effects of harsh dieting and excessive amounts of cardio& not to mention that trenbolone itself may burn fat (due to it´s strong AR-binding). A good choice to stack with tren in a cutting cycle is Winstrol. Winstrol has a low binding affinity to the AR and thus will act in your body in vastly different ways than the Tren (i.e. in non-receptor mediated action). In addition, Winstrol is a DHT-based drug and Tren is a 19-nor& throw in some Testosterone (prop), and you´ll have a cutting cycle which takes advantage of all 3 major families of Anabolic Steroids (Testosterone, 19-nor, and DHT), as well as vastly different AR-binding affinities and mechanisms of action.

Ironically, even though Tren is an excellent contest prep drug, it lowers your thyroid level(23), and this raises prolactin. I recommend taking T3 (25mcgs/day) along with your Tren to avoid elevating your prolactin too high via this route.

Also, this drug is a poor choice for athletes who rely on cardiovascular fitness to play a sport. Tren, anecdotally at least, reduces many athletes ability to sustain high levels of endurance. Unfortunately, this makes Tren a poor choice for many.

As of now the main source of trenbolone is from implants for cattle being converted into an injectable or transdermal compound, from powder, and of course Underground Labs. "Home brewing" powder or cattle implants seems to be the preferred method of obtaining injectable trenbolone acetate, because the user would have much more control over the potency and sterility of the drug. Trenbolone is much more expensive than other anabolic steroids ranging from 15 U.S dollars per gram of powder or 150 U.S for a single 10 ml bottle. The cost of trenbolone should not matter, it is worth every penny.

Trenbolone Acetate Profile

(17beta-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one)
(Trenbolone Base + Acetate Ester)
Formula: C20 H24 O3
Molecular Weight: 312.4078
Molecular Weight (base): 270.3706
Molecular Weight (ester):60.0524
Formula (base): C18 H22 O2
Formula (ester): C2 H4 O2
Melting Point (base): 183-186C
Melting Point (ester):16.6C
Manufacturer: Cattle implants, British Dragon, Various
Effective Dose (Men):50-150mg ED
Effective Dose (Women): Not recommended
Active life: 2-3 days
Detection Time: 5 months
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: 500/500
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heavyiron
01-04-2010, 04:54 PM
Res Vet Sci. 1981 Jan;30(1):7-13. Links

Growth hormone, insulin, prolactin and total thyroxine in the plasma of sheep implanted with the anabolic steroid trenbolone acetate alone or with oestradiol.

Donaldson IA, Hart IC, Heitzman RJ.

The mode of action of the anabolic steroid trenbolone acetate (19-norandrost-4,9,11-trien-3-one-17-acetate) was studied through the endogenous hormonal response of castrated male sheep to subcutaneous implantation of 140 mg of trenbolone acetate and 20 mg of oestradiol both separately and in combination. Radioimmunoassay of delta-4,9,11-trienic steroids and oestradiol-17 beta in plasma confirmed that simultaneous administration of trenbolone acetate with oestradiol led to a significantly greater persistence of oestradiol-17 beta residues in plasma (P less than 0.05) than with implantation of oestradiol alone. Oestradiol treatment increased concentrations of growth hormone and insulin (P less than 0.05; P less than 0.001 respectively) in plasma samples collected weekly. Trenbolone acetate by itself had no significant effect and the oestrogenic response was blocked on the simultaneous implantation of trenbolone acetate and oestradiol (despite higher plasma levels of oestradiol-17 beta with this treatment). Plasma total thyroxine was markedly depressed to 45 per cent of its basal level by trenbolone acetate, alone or with oestradiol (P less than 0.001) and depressed to 80 per cent of basal by oestradiol treatment alone (P less than 0.001). Plasma prolactin was unaltered by the above treatments.

heavyiron
01-06-2010, 09:12 PM
IGF-I mRNA levels in bovine satellite cell cultures: effects of fusion and anabolic steroid treatment.

Kamanga-Sollo E (http://forums.rxmuscle.com/pubmed?term=%22Kamanga-Sollo%20E%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVAbstract), Pampusch MS (http://forums.rxmuscle.com/pubmed?term=%22Pampusch%20MS%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVAbstract), Xi G (http://forums.rxmuscle.com/pubmed?term=%22Xi%20G%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVAbstract), White ME (http://forums.rxmuscle.com/pubmed?term=%22White%20ME%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVAbstract), Hathaway MR (http://forums.rxmuscle.com/pubmed?term=%22Hathaway%20MR%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVAbstract), Dayton WR (http://forums.rxmuscle.com/pubmed?term=%22Dayton%20WR%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVAbstract).
Department of Animal Science, University of Minnesota, St. Paul, Minnesota 55108, USA.

Androgenic and estrogenic steroids enhance muscle growth in a number of species; however, the mechanism by which anabolic steroids enhance muscle growth is not known. Castrated male cattle (steers) provide a particularly good model system in which to study the effects of anabolic steroids on muscle growth because they respond dramatically to treatment with both estrogens and androgens. The goal of this study was to determine if treatment of bovine satellite cell (BSC) cultures with 17beta-estradiol (E(2)) or trenbolone (a synthetic androgen) directly affects proliferation rate or level of mRNA for estrogen receptor (ER)-alpha, androgen receptor, and growth factors that have been shown to affect muscle growth (insulin-like growth factor (IGF)-I, IGF binding protein (IGFBP)-3, and myostatin). BSC cultures were established from the semimembranosus muscles of steers and then treated for 48 h with various concentrations of E(2) or trenbolone ranging from 0.001 to 10 nM. IGF-I mRNA levels in proliferating BSC cultures were significantly increased at 0.01 (1.9-times control values, P < 0.02) and at 0.1, 1, and 10 nM E(2) (2.9-, 3.5-, and 3.5-times control values, respectively, P < 0.0001). Additionally both 1 and 10 nM trenbolone increased IGF-I mRNA levels to 1.7-times control values (P < 0.02). ER-alpha mRNA was detectable in BSC cultures, and levels were increased (2.3-times control levels, P < 0.001) in cultures treated with 0.001 nM E(2) but not in cultures treated with higher concentrations of E(2). Androgen receptor mRNA levels also were increased (1.5-times control levels, P < 0.02) in cultures treated with 0.001 nM trenbolone but not by treatment with higher concentrations of trenbolone. Levels of IGFBP-3 were increased (1.4-times control values, P < 0.02) by treatment with 0.001 nM E(2) but not by treatment with high concentrations of E(2). Myostatin mRNA levels were not affected by any concentration of either of the steroids. Although, levels of IGF-I mRNA were 10-times greater (P < 0.02) in fused BSC cultures than in proliferating cultures, treatment of fused cultures for 48 h with 10 nM E(2) increased IGF-I mRNA levels (2.5-times control levels, P < 0.02). Both E(2) and trenbolone increased (3)H-thymidine incorporation rate (1.5-times control levels, P < 0.001) in BSC cultures in media containing serum from which IGFBP-3 had been removed by anti-IGFBP-3 affinity chromatography. In summary, treatment of BSC cultures with either E(2) or trenbolone increased IGF-I mRNA level and proliferation rate, thus, establishing that these steroids have direct anabolic effects on cells present in the BSC culture. Copyright 2004 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

PMID: 15334653 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

heavyiron
01-06-2010, 09:13 PM
The effect of trenbolone acetate with time on the various responses of protein synthesis of the rat.

Vernon BG (http://forums.rxmuscle.com/pubmed?term=%22Vernon%20BG%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVAbstract), Buttery PJ (http://forums.rxmuscle.com/pubmed?term=%22Buttery%20PJ%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVAbstract).

1. The anabolic agent trenbolone acetate (3-oxo-17beta-hydroxy-4,9,11-oestratriene acetate; TBA) given subcutaneously to female rats increased their growth rate compared with that of the placebo-treated controls. 2. The increased growth rate of the TBA-treated rats was not a consequence of an increased water retention. The TBA-treated rats had a significantly higher (P less than 0.01) total carcass nitrogen content but the total carcass fat content decreased by a non-significant (P greater than 0.05) 8.3%. 3. There was evidence of a time-lag in the response of the fractional synthetic rate of certain individual tissues to TBA. The fractional synthetic rates of the uterus and skeletal muscle mixed tissue proteins were significantly reduced in the TBA-treated rats. 4. The measured reduction in fractional synthetic rates was concluded to reflect true changes in the synthetic rate rather than a result of an alteration in the specific activity of the tyrosine pool used for protein synthesis.

PMID: 718839 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

heavyiron
01-07-2010, 04:35 PM
Women and Steroids. . . Trenbolone! Written by Leigh Penman Thursday, 27 August 2009 00:24


TRENBOLONE

Trenbolone is one of the most popular drugs used by bodybuilders today and, when you look at the stats, it is not hard to see why. A very potent androgen with strong anabolic activity, Trenbolone is an extremely effective hardening and cutting agent. In fact, it is considered indispensable when it comes to pre contest preparation. However, it is also extremely valuable in the off-season as it creates a rapid build up of strength and muscle mass. In fact, the anabolic effect is often compared to testosterone or Dianabol with one very important difference - it does not convert to estrogen. This is what truly sets it apart, as most mass building drugs readily aromatize, leading to many estrogen related problems (e.g. water retention gynecomastia).

Due to the lack of water retention, the gains when using this drug are more easily maintained on discontinuing its use. In addition to this, a very hard and defined appearance can be achieved. Also, since gynecomastia is not an issue, there should not be any need to add an anti-estrogen as long as Trenbolone is the only steroid being used.

Due to the highly androgenic nature of this drug an increase in the burning of body fat is observed and a much tighter physique can be achieved without having to resort to extreme dieting.


TRENBOLONE- POINTS OF INTEREST


Trenbolone is more potent than testosterone with an effect being gauged as three times as strong on a milligram for milligram basis. It is also four times as anabolic as Deca Durabolin and ten times as androgenic. This makes the majority of the weight gained on this drug lean, quality muscle.
Trenbolone also creates an increase in the levels of the hormone IGF-1 (Insulin like Growth Factor-1) which is highly anabolic within muscle tissue.
Trenbolone has a stronger binding affinity to the androgen receptor than testosterone. This feature is a major contributing factor to the process of anabolism and fat loss.
By promoting nitrogen retention and protein synthesis within the muscle Trenbolone allows the food you eat and the nutritional supplements you take to be used more effectively. It also reduces levels of the catabolic hormone cortisol.
Trenbolone is also involved in the production of red blood cells and increases the rate of glycogen replenishment (both of which contribute not only to stamina but also to recovery from workouts)
SIDE EFFECTS


A reduction in aerobic capacity is the most common complaint with Trenbolone. This is thought to be caused by bronchial dilation resulting from an increase in prostaglandin production. The condition known as "Tren Cough" is often a complaint registered with users of the Acetate version (Trenbolone is available in Acetate and Enanthate forms). Androgenic side effects may also be experienced which include oily skin, aggressive behavior, and acne and hair loss. For this reason women are usually advised to stay away from this drug.


TRENBOLONE...THE WOMEN OF THE FORUM SPEAK OUT

It seems that although women are generally told to avoid using this drug, Trenbolone is being used more and more by women in controlled doses. The fact that it adds primarily lean mass whilst reducing body fat is obviously a key factor in its attractiveness. When women were asked for their feedback on Trenbolone use a variety of favored dosages came up. Anything from a very conservative 10mg every other day to a more adventurous 100mg/week split into two doses.

Stacking Trenbolone with Testosterone Propionate was also something favored by those engaging in high level competition.

Another use of Trenbolone involved taking it 3-4 days before a show in order to add hardness and definition to the physique.
It has to be said that side effects were experienced by all - usually increased hair growth and acne - and the severity of the side effects seemed to be worse in younger women. The theory expressed here being that ovarian function may be the reason for this, with a younger woman still having stronger ovarian function than an older women who may be entering peri-menopause.

This is all speculation of course but seems like a plausible explanation in my opinion.

Either way, if you are considering using Trenbolone it is advised to use it on its own and at extremely low doses (such as the aforementioned 10mg every other day) in order to test your own unique sensitivity.


TRENBOLONE....THE SISTER STEEL EVALUATION

Trenbolone is a potent androgen that is primarily used in cattle, so there is even less information at our disposal on this compound or its effects on the female endocrine system than any other drug. It is the one drug that seems to produce results as significant as the side effects that are associated with it. Women are generally advised to stay clear of
Trenbolone considering the strong androgenic component which eradicates any possibility of running Trenbolone without sides. The more seasoned female athlete will run it in the off season in order to reap the muscle building benefits of the drug whilst maintaining a relatively low body fat. On the other hand running it during contest preparation will preserve the newly added muscle mass while on a calorie restricted diet. The less daring athlete will run Trenbolone during the last few weeks of contest preparation or even limit their use to the week before the show - with a more frequent injection schedule.

Women who have experienced less favorable side effects on Trenbolone report experiencing tachycardia from a single pin, accompanied by profuse night sweats and insomnia bad enough to bail on the cycle. Others experience rapid hair growth with more frequent shaving (side effects that are far from unmanageable).

Quite honestly, Trenbolone dosing is dependent on how much a woman is willing to deal with in terms of sides. There is no conservative dose for a first timer with Trenbolone being far better suited for the educated, experienced and seasoned athlete who has paid her dues.
It is also important to note that Trenbolone lowers TSH levels so running T3 in conjunction with it is highly advisable, as well as an anti-prolactin such as Dostinex at 0.5mg every third day or 5mg of Bromocriptine daily to keep prolactin levels in check.

http://www.rxmuscle.com/the-women/663-women-and-steroids-trenbolone.html

heavyiron
04-23-2011, 07:44 AM
Trenbolone, a practical application by heavyiron

Trenbolone Acetate may be used for cutting, bulking or recomping. This steroid is very versatile. But out of the three, Trenbolone seems best suited for recomping. Body recomposition is when you lose body fat and gain muscle mass. It’s not just cutting fat but cutting fat AND adding muscle. If you have been bodybuilding for any period of time you understand how difficult this can be. In fact, recomping becomes harder and harder the longer you body build. Eventually you hit a wall. This is when we may add Trenbolone to keep gains rolling.

Setting up a cycle with Trenbolone depends on many things such as goals, experience level, side effects experienced and threshold for risk. I personally have found that Trenbolone stacked in a specific dose with Testosterone and timed properly can illicit terrific results on a recomp while minimizing side effects. The following are some sample cycles using Trenbolone Acetate on a recomp.

*This cycle is for newer users of Trenbolone Acetate*

Week 1-8 500mg Test E or C
Week 9-12 750mg TE / 350mg Tren Ace

Tren Ace (100mg eod) is added at week 9 just about the time gains begin to diminish in a standard cycle. This timing is critical to "push" gains so do not alter the timing. The Tren Ace is ran for a short but effective 4 weeks. This will give a first time user some experience with the compound to assess side effects.

*This cycle is for experienced users going into a 16 week prep*

Week 1-6 500mg Test E
Week 7 750mg TE
Week 8 1 gram TE
Week 9 1 gram TE / 350mg Tren Ace
Week 10 1,250mg TE / 350mg Tren Ace
Week 11 1,250mg TE / 350mg Tren Ace
Week 12 1,500mg TE / 350mg Tren Ace
Week 13 525mg Tren Ace / 525mg Test Prop
Week 14 525mg Tren Ace / 525mg Test Prop / 100mg Winstrol tabs daily
Week 15 525mg Tren Ace / 100mg Winstrol tabs daily
Week 16 100mg Winstrol tabs daily

Tren Ace (100mg eod) is added at week 9 just about the time gains begin to diminish in a standard cycle. This timing is critical to "push" gains so do not alter the timing. Notice the Tren and Test Prop extend 2 weeks past the higher dose of Testosterone. This is purposeful to keep gains rolling while the higher dose T Enanthate is clearing. Basically gains should continue through week 14 with this setup.

Trenbolone Acetate is a steroid I have had a love hate relationship with. I love Tren’s powerful positive effects but hate the equally powerful side effects. Over the years I have experimented with various methods of using Trenbolone to its full advantage but at the same time minimizing the side effects. The side effects that users report range from increased aggression, insomnia, profuse sweating, “Tren cough” and reduced libido as well as a host of other sides that are common with androgens.

Trenbolone is quite powerful especially when used in certain ways. In fact, Trenbolone is 3 times more anabolic and androgenic than Testosterone. Tren is one potent weapon in the bodybuilder’s arsenal. Therefore, trying to figure out a way to maximize Trenbolones amazing potential while minimizing its side effects has been a pursuit of mine. Obviously, reducing the dosage is a way to reduce side effects since many times side effects are dose dependant. Stacking with complimentary steroids such as Testosterone maximizes Trenbolones potential and also reduces side effects such as loss of libido. I'm convinced there's almost no other traditional injectable stack that's as potent and versatile as Testosterone and Trenbolone. It's a simple stack with enormous potential to harden muscle, promote fat loss and add raw strength. Since Trenbolone is so anabolic it's a great muscle builder as well. I recommend dosing Testosterone at least two times higher than the Trenbolone dose. First time users of Trenbolone may start as low as 200mg Tren weekly and see its effects. More adventuresome users may double that dosage to 400mg Tren weekly.

Recently I have experimented with a high end human grade Trenbolone Acetate. In years past I have used Tren that was converted from cattle implants and I always had problems with increased side effects like "Tren cough" or pain at the injection site. I also was somewhat concerned about injecting a product that had the potential for small amounts of binders from the cattle implants. If you have ever seen converted Tren from cattle implants there is usually a small swirl of turbidity that settles on the bottom of the vial when stored for any length of time. Pure Trenbolone should not contain any turbidity. It should have clarity even if the color is not clear. Many times Tren has an amber color so inspection of the product becomes a bit harder.

After injecting Asia Pharma Trenabolic numerous times I have had zero "Tren cough" and no pain at the injection site but I have had all the positive effects of the Trenbolone Acetate. Asia Pharma Trenabolic is by far the best Trenbolone I have ever used. The photos below are meant to capture the beauty of this high quality amber colored Trenbolone Acetate.

adpolice
04-24-2011, 01:48 PM
Heavy in the last weeks of this prep cycle how much t3 do you recomend?Also what do you think of 50+50mg of stanozolol/halotestin instead of 100mg sta/lol?

heavyiron
04-24-2011, 07:41 PM
Heavy in the last weeks of this prep cycle how much t3 do you recomend?Also what do you think of 50+50mg of stanozolol/halotestin instead of 100mg sta/lol?
T3 should be around 50-75mcg's daily. Various oral anabolics can be stacked with the winny, anavar or halo are fine.

adpolice
04-25-2011, 01:03 AM
T3 should be around 50-75mcg's daily. Various oral anabolics can be stacked with the winny, anavar or halo are fine.

Thanks heavy,tren is the real deal...my source told me now that he tries to find Asia pharma because he heard is the best,i hope i'll soon keep some trenabolic;)Another question for you,can someone have the same results if he keeps cypionate to the end of the cycle+1mg of adex per day?

heavyiron
05-07-2011, 04:23 PM
Thanks heavy,tren is the real deal...my source told me now that he tries to find Asia pharma because he heard is the best,i hope i'll soon keep some trenabolic;)Another question for you,can someone have the same results if he keeps cypionate to the end of the cycle+1mg of adex per day?
I use 1mg daily of Adex when cycling higher doses of T. At the end of a prep I have used 2mg per day. No problems.

femaleuser
10-04-2013, 08:30 PM
hi i am a 20 year old female i weigh about 120 pounds im 5'3 me and my boyfriend are thinking about buying some supplements our supplier is recommending i take anavar with test but coming across trenbolone makes me curious i dont know what dose to take for either i read on your forum the dose for tren in women should be 10mg every other day or 100mg/week split into two doses or i could aslo start with 5mg/ every other day since its my first time. im torn between what i should take i want to shed some fat mainly in my stomach but i want to build lean muscle and have a fit physique that is my current goal so should i buy the anavar and test which is what my boyfriend advises me or should i buy the tren? or if you can refer me to a womans board thank you

femaleuser
10-04-2013, 08:43 PM
im not goin to act like i know about any of this stuff because i dont its hard to find information alot of females dont post about how to run cycles i usually just always hear men on the forums saying dont take tren.

NY Muscle
10-04-2013, 08:46 PM
im not goin to act like i know about any of this stuff because i dont its hard to find information alot of females dont post about how to run cycles i usually just always hear men on the forums saying dont take tren.

Females react to such low doses and less hard drugs that there really is no reason to take tren but it can be some nasty stuff for females but honestly it's not needed.

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